CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* The Documentary Evidence Indicates That Flask 1029 Was Stored In Building 1412 In 1998-2000, Not In Building 1425 As The Prosecutors Claimed In Spinning The Theory That Bruce Ivins Was The Anthrax Processor And Mailer

Posted by DXer on August 29, 2014

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8 Responses to “* The Documentary Evidence Indicates That Flask 1029 Was Stored In Building 1412 In 1998-2000, Not In Building 1425 As The Prosecutors Claimed In Spinning The Theory That Bruce Ivins Was The Anthrax Processor And Mailer”

  1. DXer said

    5 ml kept in a 50 ml conical tube went missing.

    What happened to it?

    DOJ shredded the relevant civil deposition so no one could see it.

    Where is the missing anthrax made by Dr. Ivins’ lab assistants?
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on January 31, 2011

    a new email withheld for 2 years shows that Ivins recognized that some of his Ames was missing
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on May 25, 2010

    Who was Dr. Ivins writing to about the missing sample of Ames strain of anthrax?
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on May 27, 2010

    The scientist who made the large amount of virulent Ames that is missing, who was thanked by the former Zawahiri associate for providing technical assistance re the Ames, is the person who could explain about the rabbits ; but she’s not talking.
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on November 9, 2011

    • DXer said

      “It is not like there was restricted access to the challenges.” [aerosol challenges were conducted in Building 1412]


      “Any Ames left over after a spray would be refrigerated, not frozen.”


      “They did not keep track of everyone present at aerosol challenges.”

      302 dated 3/103004 pp. 6-7 at

    • DXer said

      “To conduct an aerosol challenge, the hood line was opened, the Ames spore material was poured into the collison, and the animal was exposed to the B.a. Ames. The material collected in the all glass impinger (AG() was then “plated out.”. When the aerosol challenge was finisihed, they opened the collison and poured the material back into its tube. These tubes stayed in an ice bucket in the hood until the spray was finished. …[T]he material collected from the collison was always destroyed, but it was up to the Aerobiology technicians to autoclave and dispose of it.”

      The AGI and dilution tubes were kept in the refrigerator until the next day so that the material could be plated out again in case there was a problem with growth on the plates. Once the plates were counted, … IVINS… would autoclave the material at the autoclave located at the end of the hood line.”

      “Regardless, it would be extremely easy for someone to take a stock scraping of a vial without permission, since Ames storage locations before 2001 were not locked and there were long periods in which no one was around these storage locations.”

  2. DXer said

    Flask 1029 was registered as #7737 at Building 1412.

  3. DXer said

    Moreover, in connection with challenges in Bldg. 1412, “interviewees said that extra tubes were prepared in case one was dropped or damaged, so there were more tubes than test animals. The left-over material was not carefully inventoried or tracked. No one would notice if liquid Ames was taken out of the tubes and repalced with water.”

  4. Unmutual76 said

    Reblogged this on Unmutual76.

  5. DXer said

    In terms of determining when the date was changed, note that there is yet another version of the RMR 1029 inventory contained in a notebook issued April 5, 2000 — showing a last entry of June 2000 on the flask 1029 inventory.

    The FBI Washington Field memo says that the scientist on July 10, 2000 “received more Ames spores from Ivins…” (Note: the withdrawal is not reflected on RMR 1029; Ivins has said that he did not necessarily record transfers to RIID researchers). The experiment involved conducting complete killing of anthrax spores with EM universal fixative.

    The Washington Field Memo states” Page 24 of this notebook is a copy of the Reference Material Receive (RMR) record for RMR 1029. This record shows the storage location of RMR 1029 spores to Building ___ Room ___. The last date of RMR 1029 transfer shown in this notebook is July 7 2000. The Building indicated — whether 1412 or 1425 — is redacted but an unredacted copy would serve to further assist in understanding when the date was changed and/or when it was still stored in Building 1412.
    279A-WF-222936, 01/11/2006

  6. richard rowley said

    So, this means that anyone who had access to building 1412 in 1998-2000 and who wasn’t ‘eliminated’
    via the touted but amorphous process of elimination by the Task Force could have stolen the spores.
    To my knowledge this is not acknowledged in the Amerithrax Investigative Summary.

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