CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* Who told the reporter that RIID sent Ames to ATCC?

Posted by DXer on March 4, 2018

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21 Responses to “* Who told the reporter that RIID sent Ames to ATCC?”

  1. DXer said

    Here is a video by Major General Eaton on Donald Trump and his disrespect for veterans.

    Respect our vets for their service.

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  3. DXer said

    World War Z – trailer – Italy

  4. DXer said

    In his new book, INSIDE THE HOT ZONE, Mark Kortepeter describes the Ames strain as “a very potent strain selected for testing possible vaccines because of its deadly properties.”

  5. DXer said

    In a tweet today, President Trump said “Case Closed!” He reminds me of Charlie Sheen, during a rough patch the fellow went through a while back. He refers to himself in the third person and proclaims “We’re winning!” in what should be a diplomatic negotiation that allows the parties feel that the result was win-win. Does the President of the United States snort Aderall as rumored? Does that explain his behavior? We’ve always known — some for 40 years— that he lacks character. He was never fit to be President. Republicans need to protect the country from Trump driving the US into bankruptcy as he has done with so many of his companies.

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    Years ago, Russian defecting bioweaponeer Alibek told me and literature/contract awards/abstracts (I don’t recall which without checking) showed that an NIH scientist gave them the Ames. The scientist, educated in Israel, did not respond to my email confirming that he was the source.

    CDC inspection at Fort Detrick’s USAMRIID underscores need for regulations at other labs
    By Heather Mongilio 5 hrs ago

    USAMRIID is one of the heavily regulated laboratories, said Reed, who also spent several years there as a bacteriologist.
    Because USAMRIID is part of the Federal Select Agent Program and the Army, it is inspected by the CDC, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Department of Defense. Under the Code of Federal Regulations, those in the FSAP program can be inspected by the CDC during announced and unexpected visits.

    That’s more regulations than apply to many of the private or academic containment laboratories that do not fall under the Federal Select Agent Program, Reed said. The biosafety level does not refer to the danger of a pathogen, or disease-causing material, but rather the system required to contain it.

  7. DXer said

    Lew has graciously turned over the blog to me. We’ll see if I am up to learning how to do it. Lew now won’t have to worry about me straying off topic or saying that President Trump, by his temperament, is not suited to be President. There really is no reason that the President could not start acting more Presidential, stop the immature insults, and read more so as to inform himself on policy issues. There is no reason he couldn’t come to respect and honor the importance of the rule of law in our government.

    And there is no reason that the GOP could not develop a Plan B. William Weld seems Presidential and well-qualified. As does Mitt Romney. And I’m sure there are many others.

  8. DXer said

    This book reviewer, Glenn Cross, got his PhD at George Mason University. The book review bio notes: “Ken Alibek, was his dissertation advisor. Dr. Cross went on to do a postdoctoral fellowship at Georgetown University Medical School developing means for attributing biological weapons attacks.” ATCC shared facilities with GMU — it was located there. Ken Alibek told me that they were using Ames.

    Death in the Air: Revisiting the 2001 Anthrax Mailings and the Amerithrax Investigation

    Glenn Cross
    January 16, 2019
    Book Reviews

    “The book is Decker’s first-person account of his role in the case. This perspective is both the book’s major strength and its major weakness. Decker’s focus was on developing and refining the scientific approach to the investigation, so he deftly weaves a compelling account of the scientific aspects of Amerithrax. At the same time, although he certainly was aware of other aspects of Amerithrax, Decker’s book offers no insight into the efforts to examine possible international terrorist involvement in the mailings, an early concern that continued late into the case.”

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

  9. DXer said

    Trump again lashes out over ‘infiltration’ of ‘spies’ into his campaign
    May 31st 2018

    Trump knocks news outlets for burying ‘infiltration’ of campaign: ‘Surveillance much?’
    By John Bowden – 05/31/18

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

    President Trump,

    I tend to agree that the media (NYT, MSNBC, CNN) is biased against you. An illustration is where they misquoted the official about the Korean summit being “impossible” and then double-downed by relying on the fact that they official they misquoted did in fact exist.

    But on this infiltration point, perhaps the issue hasn’t fully ripened yet. You have been relying on some approaches by Halper that were prudent and warranted — as explained by Gowdy.

    But the more interesting question — a subject that might afford you a basis for making the argument persuasively — relates to Felix Sater.

    Is he cooperating with the FBI? If so, when did he start?

    As another example of media bias, consider Avenatti’s claim that the Cohen tapes need to be made public. The media does not even focus on the fact that there is no legal basis whatsoever for the demand.

    If I were you, I would resign and resume a satisfying life of leisure. Michael Cohen’s documents are too damning for you to win a second term, to be sure. If you don’t realize that, you should step out of your FoxNews echo bubble and review your life in your head — dating to when you hired the illegal Polish workers to take down Bonwit Teller. You need to review who the Trump Organization paid to get things done. Michael Cohen not only kept such records but the idiot kept tapes of phone calls. Audiotapes are extremely powerful.

    The facts reflected by the Cohen materials are too damning — and Mueller’s team too accomplished — for you to remain in office unless Felix Sater was cooperating with the FBI and laying a trap for you in Moscow at a very early stage.

    You, quite simply, should have boned up on infiltration a long time ago and revealed that Mueller botched Amerithrax — and that can be done simply by ensuring that the FBI complies with FOIA. Giuliani dropped the ball on this a long time ago.

    (In contrast, FOIA would never reach the Cohen tapes during the pendency of the criminal prosecution).

    • DXer said

      When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee? Robert Mueller is a man of integrity worthy of the public’s support, regardless of their party affiliation. Avenatti is not.

      Coffee shortages, payment questions, and shocking closures: Former employees at the coffee chain once purchased by Stormy Daniels’ lawyer share what it was like to work at Tully’s
      Kate Taylor

    • DXer said

      Robert Mueller represents the rule of law. Michael Avenatti does not. Choose your heroes wisely.

      Exclusive: How a ‘nobody’ ex-con pushed Avenatti law firm into bankruptcy
      By Maeve Reston, Scott Glover, Sara Sidner and Traci Tamura, CNN
      Updated 8:12 PM ET, Fri June 1, 2018

    • DXer said

      WATCH: Mystery man who forced attorney Avenatti into bankruptcy refuses to say who paid for it in ambush interview

      Martin Cizmar
      01 Jun 2018 at 20:46 ET

    • DXer said

      Trump lawyers’ letter to Mueller: President has absolute authority over federal investigations, by Jonathan Lemire, June 2, 2018

      Comment: Independent Counselor Mueller should subpoena President Trump and then this legal question can be litigated.

    • DXer said

      Giuliani threatens legal battle with Mueller over subpoena

      By Katherine Faulders,
      Tara Palmeri
      Jun 2, 2018, 8:21 PM ET

      “If Mueller tries to subpoena us, we’re going to court,” Giuliani told ABC News.

      Comment: And that is how it should be. President Trump will have been exposed as someone who feels he cannot testify about the matters presented, and then the legal question will be resolved by the court or courts.

      President Trump instead could sit for the interview and simply plead the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

    • DXer said

      Theory that a president cannot obstruct justice is ‘ludicrous,’ legal scholars say
      Updated Jun 3, 7:41 PM; Posted Jun 3, 6:21 PM

      Jonathan Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, said he believed the president has the authority to pardon himself, and using pardons as a piece of an obstruction case might be problematic “because the nature of the act is to bar prosecutions or set aside convictions.”

      “That has been something of a parlor game for constitutional scholars for years, and many of the fun hypotheticals that we used to enjoy over beers all seem to be coming to fruition under the Trump administration,” Turley said.

      Comment: The Constitution says that the president “shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.”

      The President does not have the power to grant pardons against the United States in cases of impeachment.

      A cynic might file Professor Turley’s opinion under Business Development. But the Independent Counsel should subpoena the President for an interview. And let’s have a court address the language of the United States Constitution.

      For Attorney Giuliani to argue that President Trump could shoot James Comey (in other stories today and yesterday) and not be subject to indictment is about as far from the rule of law as one can get.

      Attorney Giuliani is shaping his legacy.

      Now it is time to Robert Mueller to determine his own legacy. And make it clear to the world: the United States of America is not a banana republic. That is not what Marines died for.

    • DXer said

      Once some of the bombshell Cohen documents come to light, President Trump should be impeached. He will have had every opportunity to step down and allow a smoother transition of power.

      “Can Trump pardon himself? Not if he’s impeached”

    • DXer said

      Mueller has waited long enough. It’s subpoena time.

      “What should the special counsel do next? I’d suggest it’s subpoena time.”

      Comment: I agree with Ruth Marcus.

      A federal court should not be given the opportunity to decide the legal question presented — the divisiveness results in the issue being the subject of assertion and counter-assertion by kitchen and tv pundits and lawyers (and bloggers).

      And, yes, after a District Court ruling, the issue would be subject to appeal.

      I expect that before the issue is finally resolved by the judiciary President Trump will resign once the documents seized in the Cohen raid are given to the FBI and processed by the DOJ taint team.

      We need to move things forward in an orderly way so we can get on with the business of government under a new Administration. If President Trump acts in a timely manner, he will be able to resume a life of luxury and avoid disgrace.

      Trump knows I’m right because he knows the types of things he’s been doing all his life in the construction and casino industries. And some of those things are reflected in the Cohen documents that were seized.

  10. DXer said

    All the while I’ve disagreed with him — first as to Hatfill and then as to Ivins — I’ve always thought of Robert Mueller as Gary Cooper in High Noon.

    Article 2, Section 2, Sentence 1 creates an exception for the President’s pardon power in matters of impeachment.

    The indictment of Michael Cohen (and Felix Sater) can be expected to state such a charge. In other words, his powers of impeachment would not permit him to pardon Cohen in a matter relating to impeachment.

    But Independent Counsel’s failure to subpoena President Trump reminds me of this Underdog episode below.

    As the 15 attorneys race to go through Cohen’s documents, they are reporting back the bad news.

    Cohen’s lawyers are panicking. Now President Trump is panicking. He and his gang will be arriving at the train station shortly.

    It’s time for the Independent Counsel to do what he was signed up to do — no investigation is complete without an interview of the President on the issues.

    Mueller should seek to have a subpoena issue and interview the President — or have one of his ace prosecutors do so.

    Respectfully, Robert Mueller botched Amerithrax (in my opinion). Reasonable people can disagree. In my opinion, he also is now making a mistake in not seeking to force the interview with the President on the issues he was hired and is being paid to investigate.

    Although review of Cohen’s documents would be preferable, things may be moving at a pace where Mueller should move forward with the interview. Let Attorney Giuliani litigate the issue if he likes.

  11. DXer said

    As for whether it was sent to ATCC in Northern VA — who told the RIID reporter that ATCC was given Ames? James Bannan, the leading FBI scientist, had been the scientist in charge of the bacteriology section of that culture repository. ATCC shared space with Ken Alibek’s company, Hadron, at GMU. Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek told me — and the documents show — that his company was supplied Ames by 1999. (It came from an Israeli scientist, as I recall offhand, who was working at NIH). He had virulent Ames — the work was done at Southern Research Institute. (I spoke with Ken about the outside company that did the research).

    Pat Fellows came to head the BL-3 lab at Southern Research Institute there not so long after this email from Bruce. While Bruce may not have been the one to supply ATCC/Alibek Ames, it was the FBI and Pat Fellows who would have known about Alibek’s company with Ames — that is, along with FBI’s scientists. In September 2002, when it was reported that Alibek was of keen investigative interest, Ivins forwarded the article with an exclamation “Very interesting!”

    A whistleblower once called me to tell me that convicted seditionist who had an office next to Alibek had full access to the ATCC culture repository — you know, the one that the FBI scientist JB oversaw. Ali Al-TImimi received two life sentences for some conversations he had with some young jihadis who wanted to go abroad to defend their faith. An attorney who had BL-4 experience, she was let go within her 2 week probationary period when raised the issue of the incredibly lax security.

    Do you think the FBI maybe should release the emails to Pat Fellows and Mara Linscott it quoted and relied upon in its Amerithrax Summary to see if they have fairly characterized them? By my count, they are withholding every freaking one they quoted and relied upon in closing the case. I appreciate that conflicts of interest are sometimes difficult to avoid in a small field — and I credit everyone’s good faith except Dr. Ayman Zawahiri — but those conflicts of interest require the utmost transparency. Here, the lead FBI scientist Jason B. might have been subject to millions in civil liability if it was found that he had allowed a convicted seditionsist access to the largest microbiological repository in the world. (As it is, have you ever wondered why Ali Al-Timimi’s trial is partly classified? As Senator Leahy has said, the FBI just classifies its mistakes so they don’t come to light. Sunlight — compliance with the law, with FOIA — is the best disinfectant.

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

    • DXer said

      Because of some sort of computer difficulty, I can’t get into the USAMRMC Electronic Reading Room anymore — as of a few minutes ago.

      It seems that it would be cool if I could re-post all the relevant documents posted on this blog over the past years — but this time with the redactions eliminated — so we can put an end to the FBI’s spin, eh?

      But the Oscars are tonight. And the FBI knows I take analysis of the Oscars very seriously.

    • DXer said

      In this thread above, I wrote:

      “Pat Fellows came to head the BL-3 lab at Southern Research Institute there not so long after this email from Bruce.”

      But then the unredacted version of the October 30 email from Bruce to Pat has not yet been posted by Lew. My assurance to him that I had full authority to post the unredacted version may not have yet convinced him. Or he may just be otherwise occupied.

      In any event, for your convenience, I’ll retype the email thusly:

      “From: Ivins, Bruce E Dr USAMRIID
      Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 20011 7:05 AM”
      To: Pat Fellows in Florida (E-mail)
      Subject: FW New Yorker urgently asks fact-check on one question. Please.

      Can you believe this, QB?? Deborah McKenzie now says that we have “weaponized” the Ames strain. INCREDIBLE!!!!”

      If necessary, future unredacted versions of previously produced emails can be uploaded at

      Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

      It is the FBI that is out of compliance with the law, with FOIPA — by its withholding from Dillon the emails from Bruce to Mara and Pat and others in September and October 2001 bearing on how he was spending his time before the mailings. The FBI’s wrongful withholding combined with its selective quoting and false assertions has resulted in its BS “Ivins Theory” that has served CYA purposes, and not served any national security interests.

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