CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* Hickory Dickory Doc: The mice ran up the clock and Dr. Ivins time in the BL-3 lab in late September 2001 but not as much as the rabbits did in early October 2001.

Posted by DXer on January 4, 2012



9 Responses to “* Hickory Dickory Doc: The mice ran up the clock and Dr. Ivins time in the BL-3 lab in late September 2001 but not as much as the rabbits did in early October 2001.”

  1. DXer said

    In an email dated September 8, 2001, at 9:31 PM — first produced by the FBI yesterday — Ivins explained that he had been coming in at night for a small animal experiment.
    He explained that the Bacteriology Division picnic was scheduled for that next Friday (September 14, 2001).

    Now look at the pundits who claimed that Ivins had no reason to be in the lab at night — and imagined that he was making the deadly mailed anthrax when he was at the Bacteriology Division picnic.

    Hi, ___________

    I received __________ a check for ___ ticket for the baseball game today. Unfortunately _____ sent me $20 too much. Sigh… ___ said ___ enjoyed the game except for having to sit with two non-Yankee fans _______ me). I sent __ back an email assuring ___ that it would never happen again. 🙂

    ____ came to me a couple of afternoons ago, laughed, and said _________. Then ___ laughed again and walked on. I have no idea what ___ was talking about.

    The Bacteriology Division picnic is Friday. I’m going to try to make _____________ chocolate-peanut butter cake. The Anthrax Steering Committee _________ I) supposed to meet soon to discuss the progress of various research programs. ____ suggested this Friday, but ___ pointed out it was the day of the picnic. Then ___ said we should all meet at 1 p.m since that would give us a chance to eat and get back. ____ completely overlooked what we might do for the rest of the afternoon). I protested and ___ replied, “How much are you going to eat, anyway?” Now ___ has scheduled it for the 13th, but who knows.

    I’ve been coming in at night to check micr for an experiment testing the protective of antiserum (to AVA or PA) in mice against a Vollum 1B challenge. So far it appears that there is definite protective effect of the antiserum, except for human anti-AVA IgG.

    [extensive redaction]

    That’s about it. Hope you have a good weekend


  2. DXer said

    Scott Decker, in his recent book, describes the monkey business at USAMRIID, which included care and checking of animals on nights and weekends.

    “They brought up a concern we had not anticipated — the monkey colony. USAMRIID housed an extensive collection of nonhuman primates. Living in cages, stacked two and three high, kept in the back corner of the laboratory building away from noise and interruptions were rhesus and cynomolgus macaques and green monkeys.

    The primates were vital to USAMRIID’s research. USAMRIID used the colony to test the efficacy of new vaccines against anthrax….


    Researchers would also be allowed to check on experiments and ensure food and water was available for their rabbits, monkeys, mice, and rats, if willing to be accompanied by an agent. We would begin searching at the beginning of the weekend and make every effort to wrap up by Tuesday morning, the end of the holiday weekend.” (p. 153)

  3. DXer said

    This protocol above, for example, on which Stephen Little was the Principal Investigator, states: “Study Room Animals receiving vaccine will be housed in AR-2 (Building 1425) until challenge in B-305 (Building 1425). ”

    B305 was in the B3 suite across from Pat Worsham’s office. Both Little and Worsham describe such studies in their depositions.

    • DXer said

      “Development of a recombinant protective antigen (rPA potency assay and immunological correlate of immunity against anthrax in mice” describes Dr. Ivins role:

      “He will take part in immunization, bleeding, challenge, and observation of the animals.”

  4. DXer said

    Wouldn’t it be easy if the secrets of the universe could be known if GAO merely succeeded in reporting on the details of what has been redacted in connection with how Dr. Ivins actually spent his time?

  5. DXer said

    In September 2001, before the arrival of the rabbits on September 24, there were mice — lots of mice. Dr. Ivins would assist in the bleeding of the animals as he had done in other experiments.

  6. This is a very impressive montage, both artistic and substantial. It is a testament to your perseverance and a model to others to not give up.

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