CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* DXer comment on BBC’s September 14, 2016 interview of FBI Agent Scott Stanley

Posted by Lew Weinstein on September 14, 2016



13 Responses to “* DXer comment on BBC’s September 14, 2016 interview of FBI Agent Scott Stanley”

  1. DXer said

    From the grapevine:

    Now this fellow who says he was in charge of the FBI’s science, R. Scott Decker, says that Hatfill arose as a suspect because he fit the FBI’s profile (which was done early Fall 2001). Now how’s that for planning science around a guess made by people who had no background in the relevant intelligence analysis!? In his writing, he talks about not being able to confirm Hatfill’s service in Rhodesian C Squadron. He writes about him not fulfilling the dissertation requirement. Yikes! He notes that there even was doubt that Hatfill “had fulfilled the new Zimbabwean requirement of public service for medical student.” Egads. As if forging his PhD certificate was not ghastly enough.

    But why is the science guy concerning himself with the tawdry facts of Hatfill’s life? He instead should have been immersed with obtaining the lab notebooks associated with lab that used Ames anthrax and preserving hard drives. It was his responsibility to discover at the time that there had never been any validation of the technique used to inactivate the Ames strain being sent around (per Ezzell in statements to me). That might have avoided the debacle in recent years when it was discovered that virulent Ames was sent all over the country — by accident!

    If he suspected Ivins at all, the computer installed in the summer of 2001 should have been cloned at the outset.

    In his manuscript, he says Laboratory Directors were called to Washington to assure that they have provided all the Ames. Now how would the laboratory director know?! And because of the lack of a validated method for inactivating Ames, they were overlooking an entire huge set of samples.

    Decker writes about Flask 1029 being a match — yet no mention of Flask 1030! When that is the one that had the silicon signal.

    Even though virulent Ames was all over Building 1425 and 1412, he found exonerating of Hatfill — who was only being discussed because he fit some “profile” — because there was no mention of him in Ivins notebooks.

    Yet surreptitious acquisition is a lot easier than that, eh?

    Decker writes a lot about sororities and the like — and one needs to take a breath and ask: WTF does this have to do with forensics?

    Why wasn’t the focus on paper, ink, xerox machine track marks, and the like.

    We have the same thing happening in the Suzanne Jovin case. The FBI has brought in a hypnotist to explore a repressed memory of someone who overheard a man and woman’s raised voices in passing 19 years ago!

  2. DXer said

    Now we have another name: Philip Baruth as set forth in Senator Leahy: A Life in Scenes (Hardcover).

  3. DXer said

    GAO report: Problems working with pathogens go beyond Dugway Proving Ground and anthrax

    By NATE CARLISLE | The Salt Lake Tribune
    First Published Sep 27 2016 12:24PM • Updated 4 hours ago

    The U.S. Government Accountability Office found 21 incidents between 2003 and 2015 when government and private labs shipped live biological agents that were supposed to have been made inactive. That is 11 more incidents than the labs themselves reported, says the GAO report, which was released last week.

    The number of live shipments could be even higher because there is no standardized form for reporting such incidents, nor even scientific agreement on when a pathogen is rendered inactive, the report said. No one agency is responsible for overseeing what are called “high-containment laboratories” that work with the pathogens.


    FBI Agent Scott Stanley, this same scientist interviewed by the BBC on the 15th anniversary — who guided the analysis of the 4 morphs — premised his approach on the false assumption that all anthrax that was distributed was successfully irradiated. Experienced scientists, such as John Ezzell, told me that he knew that the science had not been done and such a premise was unfounded.

    Moreover, Stanley’s approach overlooks surreptitious acquisition — even though everyone in the field understands that it was easy to covertly acquire anthrax from a lab that had it.

    The fact that the FBI refuses to identify the second lab that Rauf Ahmad visited (on his mission for Ayman Zawahiri) dramatically illustrates the game of hide-the-ball being played. All the while a key scientist responsible for the botching of the true crime analysis relies on the psychic in her new part-time counseling gig who says in a book that she was controlled by an alien who had implanted a microchip in her butt.

    FBI Director Comey fears a diaspora when he should also fear the FBI’s historic and continued CYA approach to FOIPA — illustrated by its failure to produce Ivins’ Notebook 4282.

    FBI’s Comey: Officials Worry About ‘Terrorist Diaspora’ from Syria, Iraq
    by Pete Williams and The Associated Press

    If and when ISIS attacks the US with sarin, members of Congress may come to understand that the FBI Director Comey had the ready means of directing compliance with FOIPA (e.g., withholding of Notebook 4282) — which might at least permit connecting the dots so that history might be written.

    It seems unrealistic to expect that the FBI can avoid shooting by every angry young man in a country of several hundred million.

    But we can expect that the FBI go get Notebook 4282 and produce it — or charge criminally the individual who destroyed it.

  4. DXer said

    La noche temática aborda el tema de ‘Ántrax, la bacteria del bioterrorismo’, Sept. 26, 2016

  5. DXer said

    Cover Story

    After Amerithrax: Biodefense in a post-9/11 America

    Biodetection technology has evolved tremendously since the anthrax attacks of 2001, but that’s not the real problem with the U.S.’s biodefense
    Volume 94 Issue 38 | pp. 36-40
    Issue Date: September 26, 2016

    By Matt Davenport

  6. DXer said

    If the evidence is unfit, you must acquit: Prosecutors are fighting to keep flawed forensic evidence in the courtroom

    Much of the forensic evidence used in convictions has been found unreliable. Prosecutors want to use it anyway

    Daniel Denvir


    And if they don’t even have flawed forensic scientist, they will turn to the third-hand statements of a psychic who says she had her psychic powers bestowed by an alien who controlled her actions through a micro-chip implanted in her butt. She had written a book explaining how she thought murderous entities attached to her patients in her new part-time addictions counseling gig were trying to kill her. She says she thought every night she travelled to Afghanistan and 9-11 and helped search for astral entities — narrowly being captured each night by the murderous astral entities, escaping only through a vortex that closed. On the 15th anniversary, a scientist who led development evidence of 4 morphs that he imagines pointed to Ivins, gave an interview in which he relied on the claims by this woman as the key evidence against Ivins. He obviously has not read the book — which was available on Amazon at the time the FBI closed the case and in the years since.

  7. DXer said

    U.N. Inspectors Find Sarin and VX Nerve Agents in Underground Syrian Regime Lab
    By Jack Moore On 9/19/16

  8. DXer said

    US bombs ISIS chemical weapons plant

    CNN-Sep 13, 2016
    (CNN) The US has bombarded an ISIS chemical weapons plant that was housed in a converted Iraqi pharmaceutical factory, a top Air Force …

  9. DXer said

    Although Amerithrax may seem complex, its solution may lie in just a few key documents that need to be obtained showing where Ivins was on a particular date.

    The contemporary documentary evidence could be equally probative in a treasure hunt involving Dutch Schultz’s millions.

    After some filming here yesterday by a wonderful film company from Canada, I am optimistic that History channel will do a show or series on Dutch Schultz’s missing millions.

    Dutch Schultz in Fairfield County, Connecticut in 1935 : his horses, his hiding places, and his missing millions | Ross Getman and Grace Getman
    July 16, 2010

    My daughter and I tracked where Dutch and Lulu hid the iron chest containing millions from April 1-11, 1935 — at 3 Marion Ave in Norwalk, CT.

    But he moved the chest when he turned in his keys to the realtor on that date — and yet did not check in to Hotel Syracuse until a few days later.

    So I think if you find where Dutch and Lulu laid their head on April 12, 1935, you’ll find where his missing millions were hid prior to his being killed a few months later.

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

  10. DXer said

    Experts tell CBS12 that bio-terror is still a threat, 15 years after the anthrax attack in 2001.

    PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. (CBS12) — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-Florida) tells CBS12 terrorists aspire to develop terror agents—including biological weapons—that they can use for attacks in the U.S.

    “They are plotting every day to get a hold of biological agents from Sarin to Anthrax that can be used for chemical attacks.”

    “It remains an ongoing threat for the country. There’s no doubt about it.”

    Someone mailed an anthrax-laced letter to the American Media building in Boca Raton.

    It was received exactly one week after the 9/11 attacks.

    Tabloid photo editor Bob Stevens later died after opening the letter.

    Infectious diseases expert Dr. Larry Bush first identified Stevens as an anthrax victim.

    In all, five people died. 17 others were infected but survived after anthrax-laced letters were sent to media companies and the offices of Members of Congress.

    The F.B.I identified Dr. Bruce Iv[i]ns, who worked at a government lab in Maryland, as a suspect.

    He later committed suicide, and the F.B.I. considers this to have closed the case.

    15-years later, Dr. Bush believes a bioterror attack could happen again.

    “I think it’s always a threat, because it’s not very hard to do as that (attack in 2001) proved. Nobody ever thought you could disseminate Anthrax via the mail. It was done very easily, and it was very effective.”

  11. DXer said

    Some sources:

    David Willman [perhaps channeling FBI Agent Scott Stanley, interviewed above] relies extensively upon Dr. Ivins’ first therapist, Judith M. McLean, who writes of how she acquired her psychic abilities in her book available for sale on — from a being from another planet
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 11, 2011

    In addition to helping the FBI with Amerithrax, the psychic relied upon by David Willman helped with 911 by her astral travelling and retrieval of etheric body parts at Ground Zero … She reports she was granted her psychic abilities by a being claiming to be an extraterrestial
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 11, 2011

    The material on the CASE CLOSED blog about Judith McLean (see prior posts linked below) is relevant to an evaluation of the validity of David Willman’s conclusions in his recently published “The Mirage Man” … because Willman himself, in his publicity blurb (see below), shows just how much he relied on the psychic who says … she was granted her abilities by an extraterrestrial being … got sick in 2001 from doing astral recovery work at Ground Zero and in Afghanistan after 9/11 … and was pursued by nasty Taliban entities
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 12, 2011

    DOJ has successfully avoided deposition of Amerithrax consultant Gregory Saathoff who extensively and uncritically relied on the Ivins’ accuser who claims she was granted her psychic abilities by an alien from another planet
    Posted on July 13, 2011

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