CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* Dr. Ivins in February 2005 told the FBI that Michigan researchers Hayes and Hamouda were “at each others throats”

Posted by DXer on May 14, 2014

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5 Responses to “* Dr. Ivins in February 2005 told the FBI that Michigan researchers Hayes and Hamouda were “at each others throats””

  1. DXer said

    Q You mentioned that the anthrax attacks of 17 years ago was indeed a domestic one done at a National Research Laboratory here by a scientist there.

    It would seem to me that that is the single greatest potential threat. And also, coupled with that, is the fact that we have so many scientists from malign states who do university work in this country. What kind of scrutiny are those scientists given by the government?

    SECRETARY AZAR: So, as you may know, there are different tiers of biological research facilities all the way up to what’s called biosecurity level 4, the most contained for the most dangerous select agents that we operate on. And that lab safety and control is something that at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention out of Atlanta, that’s part of my department, we regulate and focus on lab security there.

    So that’s actually a key part of the strategy. It’s good that you mentioned that — is the lab security here in the United States. There are a fair number of labs. We need to keep that. All of the great research that we do to advance biomedicine, and also even to prepare for countermeasures, has its opposite side, which is the threat potential. Exactly what you mentioned.

    So that involves having to do background checks on individuals who may be touching select agents. There’s a whole regulatory regime — it’s called the Select Agent Regulation that CDC has — that controls the use transport of these more dangerous components that could be used in biological weapons.

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

  2. DXer said

    In his book, R. Scott Decker says he knows all the samples of Ames were submitted because he called up places and asked. Ha! Can you imagine him calling up James Baker at his alma mater?
    Dr. Baker would have told Decker that Michigan did not have any Ames and you know that, he would heave explained, because they only had BL-2 facilities, not BL-3. That therefore it would have been illegal for them to have it. Baker apparently didn’t even know that prior to 9/11 anthrax was a BL-2 pathogen in its liquid form.

    Baker told me that it all the research was done at USAMRIID under the supervision of another microbiologist. (i.e, Ivins). Of course, it was also done at LSU and at Dugway.

    Dr. Hanna wouldn’t know, working in a different department — and said so when I contacted him.

    Had Agent Decker even seen the patents saying that Michigan researchers had been supplied Ames by Bruce Ivins?

    Hint: If Agent Decker had contacted Al Qaeda’s anthrax lab director Yazid Sufaat — like I did — Yazid Sufaat would have pled the Fifth and refused to answer the question.

    And if Decker had called the former Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek (who shared a suite with convicted seditionist) — like I did — he would have said that all their research with virulent Ames was done by Southern Research Institute. (He would have admitted that his outfit had first been supplied in 1999; you may recall that Ames anthrax thought to be effectively irradiated routinely was not.)

    The civil deposition that the DOJ/FBI shredded was the deposition of the scientist who worked with the UofM researchers who then went to head the B3 lab at SRI. The FBI refuses to provide her emails. She was the one who spun the Ivins Theory upon being pressured by the FBI.

    The evidence Decker relies on — according to his book — was his gut feeling he had upon meeting Ivins — when he protested that USAMRIID didn’t make powderized anthrax. Ivins didn’t know that a scientist there working with Decker HAD made a powder out of the genetically matching Ames from Flask 1029. So his animation was not at all surprising and no basis for Decker’s bias against him. That bias — as baseless as Haigwood’s immediate gut reaction upon a Fall 2001 email — informed their wholly unscientific view of the evidence.

    Anthrax, Al Qaeda and Ayman Zawahiri: The Infiltration of US Biodefense

  3. DXer said

    Decker explained that designating it an act of terrorism was important because
    it triggered the availability of FISA.

    “Terrorism is an act of violence or disruption to change government
    action. It is important to characterize certain crimes as acts of terror
    -ism because these types of crimes are the number one priority for FBI
    resources. With crimes characterized as acts of terrorism, no potential
    leads go uninvestigated. In addition, the charges for an act of terror
    -ism may carry the death penalty. In the case of international terror
    -ism, this characterization is very important because it invokes the use
    of the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA
    Court) instead of the United States criminal court.”

  4. DXer said

    Will our own university laboratories be used to kill us?
    Coldwater Daily Reporter‎ – 19 hours ago
    Terrorist groups wanting to attack the United States are recruiting young people to become terrorists, by currently using a major propaganda media blitz on the …

  5. DXer said

    Who conducted this interview? Who was the FBI Special Agent. Did either Agent Anne Colbert or Rick Lambert both conduct this interview as I believe they did the March 31, 2005 interview?

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