CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* DOJ Civil Has Produced Jeffrey Adamovicz’ Full Civil Deposition Relating To The Fall 2001 Anthrax Mailings

Posted by Lew Weinstein on February 18, 2014

Click below and click again to download the dropbox pdf of the Adamovicz deposition …

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjfsakuuo69uede/Dr.Adamoviczdeposition.pdf

Jeffrey Adamovicz

Dr. Jeffrey Adamovicz

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7 Responses to “* DOJ Civil Has Produced Jeffrey Adamovicz’ Full Civil Deposition Relating To The Fall 2001 Anthrax Mailings”

  1. DXer said

    Ken Alibek has suggested that maybe going through the postal machinery might have caused what Dr. Adamovicz describes as the “undulating” effect.

    I’ve asked whether a corona plasma and sonicator might have been used. That was the equipment used in the ongoing biodefense detection experiments.

    The FBI’s anthrax expert made dried powder for DARPA-funded researchers who were examining the effect of corona plasma discharge on the Ames spores
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on April 25, 2010
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/the-fbis-anthrax-expert-made-dried-powder-for-darpa-funded-researchers-who-were-examining-the-effect-of-corona-plasma-discharge-on-the-ames-spores/

    Those researchers, for example, used the dried powder made by the FBI’s expert.

    That expert’s lab threw out Dr. Ivins’ February 2001 submission. (The FBI incredibly then used those same events to blame Ivins).

    DXer: John Ezzell forthrightly (to my way of thinking, heroically) answered all my questions relating to the DARPA research in which Flask 1029 (the “murder weapon” to borrow US Attorney Taylor’s term) was used to make a dried powder Ames aerosol.
    Posted by Lew Weinstein on December 10, 2010
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/john-ezzell-forthrightly-to-my-way-of-thinking-heroically-answered-all-my-dxers-questions-relating-to-the-darpa-research-in-which-flask-1029-the-“murder-weapon”-to-borrow-us/

    $100 million was spent on the investigation by a Task Force that involved a lot of Postal Inspectors. How hard would Dr. Alibek’s confjecture about the effect of the postal machinery have been to test?

    There is no such science in the record supporting Dr. Alibek’s brainstormed suggestion. (Ken too has always answered any of the questions I posed to him by telephone; I haven’t spoken to him since he left the country).

    Ken, by the way, says he knew Ali Al-Al-TImimi was hardcore. Ali Al-Timimi shared a suite with Ken and Charles, the former acting USAMRIID Commander who had been the top DIA threat assessment person. Charles and Ken had the largest DARPA-funded contract in history. Their work was done at SRI in downtown Frederick. That is where Pat Fellows, Ivins’ assistant whose deeposition has been shredded by DOJ, went to head the B3 lab in 2002.

    Ali Al-Timimi was convicted of sedition and serving an extremely long sentence, Ali Al-Timimi’s conviction is under review. There are various pending classified motions.

    Here is the floor plan of suite at GMU’s Discovery Hall in 2001 with Ali Al-Timimi and leading anthrax scientists

    Posted by Lew Weinstein on February 7, 2010
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/floor-plan-of-suite-at-gmus-discovery-hall-in-2001-with-ali-al-timimi-and-leading-anthrax-scientists/

    Ali Al-TImimi was coordinating with 911 imam Anwar Awlaki. See pending classified briefing.

    911 Imam Awlaki’s Call From Grave: Attack With Bioweapons ; Awlaki Was Coordinating With Ali Al-TImimi Who Shared A Suite With the Leading DARPA-funded Ames Researchers

    Posted by Lew Weinstein on May 4, 2012
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/john-ezzell-forthrightly-to-my-way-of-thinking-heroically-answered-all-my-dxers-questions-relating-to-the-darpa-research-in-which-flask-1029-the-“murder-weapon”-to-borrow-us/

    Ken and Charles were Battelle were consultants to Battelle in 1999.

    Ali Al-Timimi had a classified security clearance while at SRA in 1999 with Charles.

    The FBI quashed the outstanding warrant for Anwar Awlaki, the 911 imam, in order to allow a meeting that they were in a position to monitor, with Ali Al-Timimi. FBI’s Wade Ammerman, if allowed to speak to the question, could confirm they viewed Ali Al-Timimi as an “anthrax weapons suspect.”

    Ken and Charles had co-invented a patent in Spring 2001 that used silica to grow anthrax and concentrate it. The silica was in the growth solution. FBI WMD Director has confirmed that the silica may have been in the growth medium.

    The federal court in the Anwar Awlaki matter should err, IMO, on allowing material to come out in connection with the classified motions.

    Compartmentalization of information is precisely what led to the last 9/11.

    See Gibbs’ Rule #41.

    • DXer said

      “That expert’s lab threw out Dr. Ivins’ February 2001 submission. (The FBI incredibly then used those same events to blame Ivins).”

      Oops. February 2002. I mean that the FBI’s expert who made the dried powder from RMR 1029 threw out Dr. Ivins’ February 2002 submission.”

      Given that the FBI had failed to disclose that its expert had made a dried powder out of RMR 1029 — in any of the thousands of pages produced — it was very wrong for the FBI to build a case based on Dr. Ivins’ sample being thrown out. The way to avoid or reduce the effect of a conflict of interest is through disclosure and transparency.

      To his great credit, Dr. Ezzell admitted it when I telephoned him — explaining that he was under a gag order and that the FBI likely was wiretapping his phone.

      There is a lot of uncertainty in this case — but I consider Dr. Ezzell’s courage and integrity to be one of the things that is very well-established. I expect that anyone who heard him voluntarily come forward and speak to these issues at the conference organized by UCLA that was moderated by Lew thinks the same thing. In the meantime, others at the FBI has continued to play hide-the-ball. As an example, the FBI refuses to produce the handwriting comparison done of Mohammed Atta’s handwriting and the anthrax letters.

      The FBI’s FOIA person Dave Hardy does not view correcting the FBI’s missteps in Amerithrax to be a priority.

      Indeed, an entire book was written by former WMD head Majidi where he never mentioned Dr. Ivins’ experiment with the 52 rabbits.

      See Gibbs’ Rule 51.

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

    • DXer said

      Ask the former FBI WMD head Vahid Majidi where the Al Qaeda WMD guy was going that week after 9/11 when he came to the US.

      DXer says: Adnan El-Shukrijumah is the anthrax mailer … on or about 9/13/2001, he phoned from KSM’s house to tell his mom he was coming to the US
      Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 6, 2013

      https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/dxer-adnan-el-shukrijumah-is-the-anthrax-mailer-on-9132001-he-phoned-from-ksms-house-to-tell-his-mom-he-was-coming-to-the-us/

    • DXer said

      All too often we see an official government attempt to vilify a target — be it Bruce Ivins or mute swans — rather than rely on the science and evidence.

      There is a related bureaucratic tendency not to correct mistakes — and to withhold documents that tend to show that a mistake was made.

      We saw it with Hatfill and Curtis theories in regard to mailed pathogens. Unlike the Hatfill Theory, in the Curtis case the prosecutors and investigators were quick to correct their mistake — but not until after the FBI Agent’s confidence in his testimony proved a fascinating case study on how the FBI sometimes will fill in gaps in evidence with unwarranted assumptions.

      In the earlier, lesser-known Berry Theory (in Amerithrax) the FBI investigators were privately explaining that they were merely running down possible leads and looking to exclude possible theories.

      There is no reason the mistakes in Amerithrax could not be corrected if the right people were allowed the reins.

      Instead, the psychiatrists who relied on the first counselor who was getting her instructions each night from alien were the ones who presented the case to DNI in 2011.

      Those psychiatrists represent a classic example of a failure to correct their mistakes.

      Dr. Saathoff cast his report as peer-reviewed by the panel of experts he gathered. The way peer-review works is that when the claims are shown to be centrally wrong the publication should have been withdrawn or corrected — with all reliance on the first counselor excised. Dr. Saathoff and his panel did not do that. That was very wrong.

      The Psychiatrists Are Selling A Report Relying On A Counselor Who Says She Was Granted Special Powers By An Alien Controlling Her By A Device Implanted In Her Butt, But The USG Has Taken Steps To Keep The DOJ’s Reliance On That Evidence Sealed For 5 Years
      Posted on November 15, 2011
      https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/the-psychiatrists-are-selling-a-report-relying-on-a-counselor-who-says-she-was-granted-special-powers-by-an-alien-controlling-her-by-a-device-implanted-in-her-butt-but-the-usg-has-taken-steps-to-ke/

      the material on the CASE CLOSED blog about Judith McLean (see prior posts linked below) is relevant to an evaluation of the validity of David Willman’s conclusions in his recently published “The Mirage Man” … because Willman himself, in his publicity blurb (see below), shows just how much he relied on the psychic who says … she was granted her abilities by an extraterrestrial being … got sick in 2001 from doing astral recovery work at Ground Zero and in Afghanistan after 9/11 … and was pursued by nasty Taliban entities

      Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 12, 2011
      https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/06/12/why-is-all-this-material-about-judith-mclean-relevant-to-an-evaluation-of-the-validity-of-david-willman’s-conclusions-in-his-recently-published-“the-mirage-man”-because/

      DOJ has successfully avoided deposition of Amerithrax consultant Gregory Saathoff who extensively and uncritically relied on the Ivins’ accuser who claims she was granted her psychic abilities by an alien from another planet

      Posted by Lew Weinstein on July 13, 2011
      https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/doj-has-successfully-avoided-deposition-of-amerithrax-consultant-who-extensively-and-uncritically-relied-on-the-ivins-accuser-granted-her-psychic-abilities-by-an-alien-from-another-planet/

  2. Anonymous said

    This inevitably makes you wonder how the perpetrator got the stuff into the envelope in the first place. With this kind of powder you’d pick it with a spatula and by the time you get the spatula over to the paper into which you are folding it, there is now nothing left on the spatula.
    Powders like this are normally handled and dispensed with a syringe equipped with a specific gauge of needle – and that’s a job for specialists.
    But, hey, when you’re the FBI and you want to fabricate an entire fairy tale to pin it on Bruce Ivins, who cares about facts?

  3. DXer said

    I can provide full copy of any deposition produced so far for download. Thus far DOJ Civil has produced Jahrling, Little, Worsham, Andrews and Adamovicz. These present and former government scientists were powerful witnesses in Dr. Ivins’ defense.

    Perhaps the next full deposition that will be uploaded will be Dr. Russell Byrne and then Dr. Susan Welkos. I have requested the Byrne deposition yesterday. After receiving that, I will next request the full Welkos deposition. I have been asking for the depositions one at a time — like the turtle rather than the hare. (We know that DOJ AUSA Lieber in the past has stuffed 52 rabbits down the hat and so it seemed prudent).

    Requesting that DOJ process a deposition from the docket (without waiting on me) is as simple as an emailed request to civil.Routing.FOIA@USDOJ.gov . The requestor should identify the deposition as from the docket of Maureen Stevens v. United States. I have been directing requests to Attorney-in-Charge James Kovakas because of his familiarity with any protective orders that apply. Although I believe a protective order led to the shredding of the deposition of Patricia Fellows and Mara Linscott, I have not asked for those depositions.

    The efficiency of DOJ Civil FOIA is much appreciated. Exhibits can be obtained through the same method. Media requestors are favored because they share the information and so there is greater net efficiency.

    By uploading the actual document, Lew is even a better means of making the source document available.

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