CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* In newly produced civil deposition testimony, Dr. Worsham explained that she was the one who raised the issue of contamination and did some swabbing, not Bruce Ivins

Posted by DXer on January 14, 2014


11 Responses to “* In newly produced civil deposition testimony, Dr. Worsham explained that she was the one who raised the issue of contamination and did some swabbing, not Bruce Ivins”

  1. DXer said

    Jeb Bush this week published an email reminding us the thanks owed people who put themselves in harm’s way as part of their job.

    To: “‘'”

    From: “Shanahan, Kathleen”

    RE: Boca Raton (again)
    will get a plan organized

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Jeb Bush []
    Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:50 PM
    To: Jimenez, Frank (EOG) (E-mail); Kathleen Shanahan (E-mail 2)
    Subject: FW: Boca Raton (again)

    we should do this and much more. PUblic health workers, guardsmen, etc. need
    to be thanked. let us do it.


    —–Original Message—–
    From: Dave Freudenberg []
    Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:21 PM
    Subject: Boca Raton (again)

    Dear Governor Bush….

    You have been very understanding with the situation here in Boca over
    the past month (a month already since the Anthrax event started)…..
    I just had a meeting with the head of the Firefighters Union and there
    is a bit of a moral issue that he city needs to deal with. But I would
    like to enlist your help in this matter also.

    The Boca firefighters were the first on the scene of the Anthrax problem
    and worked 24/7 since then to insure that all proper precautions were
    taken to protect the workers, medical people and citizens from any
    contamination. And the proof of their success is clear as there were no
    cases of infection after the initial event. In short they did a
    fantastic job.

    May I be so bold as to suggest that a letter from yourself commending
    the Boca Raton, Delray Beach and Palm Beach County firefighters for
    their dedication would be well appreciated by them…. and the city.

    Sincerely yours

    Dave Freudenberg
    Boca Raton City Council

    • DXer said

      RE: Boca Raton (again)
      thank you.


      —–Original Message—–
      From: Shanahan, Kathleen []
      Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:22 AM
      To: ‘’; Jimenez, Frank; Shanahan, Kathleen
      Cc: DiBenigno, Arlene; Wainwright, Tara; Sasser, Charla
      Subject: RE: Boca Raton (again)

      Tim Moore, Dr. John, Arlene and myself had a conversation today on this
      Tim Moore is drafting a thank you note for you to approve/sign to get to all
      law enforcement people via their newsletters
      Dr. John will get a draft thank you note and list of all public health,
      local and state wide people, who worked on anthrax
      Will get with Roy Clark re guardsmen

      also both suggested 2 events for this week.

      Wed – 10AM – in Broward, regional meeting of all emergency, health, law
      enforcement, fire personnel covering Broward, Miami, Monroe, Palm Beach

      Friday – visit to lab downtown Miami to thank all the anthrax workers


  2. DXer said

    As evidence of guilt, the FBI in its Amerithrax Investigative Summary relied upon the fact:

    “A few months after the anthrax attacks, he took environmental samplings for anthrax contamination in the building where he worked – an unauthorized procedure – and found it only in the area where he himself worked. He then decontaminated his office and his lab, and failed to report it.”

    There was no there there — it was where the anthrax letters had been examined on October 17 and his assistant had repeatedly complained to him of the lax handling of the letter. Drawing her concern to official attention would have just gotten her and the other person who carried it over gloveless in a single plastic bag in trouble. Indeed, his assistant then was upset and embarrassed over the issue.

    In any event, Dr. Worsham explained that she was the one who raised the issue of contamination and did some swabbing, not Bruce Ivins

  3. DXer said

    Kristi Friend described the incident in spring 2002 involving Dr. Ivins’ swabbing Kristi’s desk:

    Q. Now, and Dr. Ivins said that the reason that he went ahead and did that was because you had voiced concern about contamination to him —
    A. That is correct.
    Q. — based on the powder that was brought into that AR —
    A. 105-106.
    Q. — 105 room and that his position was that you told him that you didn’t think they were using safe practices and you were concerned about contamination.
    A. That’s correct. (p. 91)

    • DXer said

      Q. And it was confirmed anthrax?
      A. That’s correct. But it was not Ames.
      Q. What was it, if you remember?
      A. Sterne. (p. 90)

    • DXer said

      From Ms. Friend’s newly produced civil deposition:

      Q. Did you ever consider swabbing the desk yourself?
      A. No.
      Q. Why not?
      A. Because the practices, the safety practices that he’s referring to was the day the letter was opened in area 105 when Ms. Abshire took that slide out. She didn’t have any gloves on — well she had one glove on one hand and one glove on — not on the other hand. So the glove she used to carry that slide out of that lab was gloved; this hand, she didn’t, and she walked halfway through the institute with that slide, and to
      me, that was not a safe procedure, considering at that time it was unknown exactly what the agent was.
      We had no idea the concentration of it, and from all I had been trained by Dr. Ivins and Ms. Fellows at that point in time, I did not feel that was safe.
      So — and I didn’t even express that to him at that time, I didn’t express to him those thoughts of mine until probably the end of November. (p. 92)

    • DXer said

      Dr. Ivins testified:

      Q. And in his statement, he mentions that you had complained about the safety practices in terms of when the original letter was brought in in the fall of — I think you said it was October 16th of 2001, correct?
      A. That’s correct.
      Q. And he said that you did this on a number of occasions, and he noticed that your desk had a thick coat of dust on it, and so that’s when he went ahead and — this is after the fact, he is disclosing this, okay?
      A. Yes. Yes. (p. 100)

  4. DXer said

    In the newly produced civil deposition of Dr. Gerard Andrews, he discusses the filters:

    “I don’t think Dr. Ivins knew how to do that. And those hoods were — were never serviced by investigators. They were — they were serviced by specialists that manufacture the hoods.

    “And freeze drying bacteria, whether in spore form or vegetative form, would have a different consistency than what was found in those letter props and, certainly would contain silicon signatures at he levels that were detected in those letter preps.”

    Page 81.

    • DXer said

      Dr. Andrews, in his newly produced civil deposition, states:

      “You know, there’s absolutely no forensic evidence that — any spores of the — of the physical nature that were found in those envelopes were — were found at USAMRIID. That’s my understanding. That’s the first thing.”

      Page 89.

  5. DXer said

    Dr, Adamovicz, Heine, Andrews — they are known as “gray beards”. Their expertise and experience makes them heavy hitters and very powerful witnesses.

    (Dr. Byrne could have grown a beard for the occasion.)

    Some of these illustrious scientists defending Dr. Ivins served as experts for the FBI — such as Dr. Fraser-Liggett and Dr. Worsham.

    Was the Bruce Ivins that the FBI described during the press conference [after his death] the same Bruce Ivins you knew?

    They seemed to harp on he was a loner. He was not a loner. …. He had a lot of friends. The first-year anniversary and the second year anniversary of his death, 20 or 30 people got together from the division. He was not a loner. He might have been a gregarious introvert maybe, but he was very outgoing. …

  6. DXer said

    There was no “there there” to the FBI’s case. It was all spin, spin, spin. Repeat cycle.

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