CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* What did Al Qaeda anthrax lab head Yazid Sufaat discuss at the meeting in Kandahar with Adnan El-Shukrijumah and KSM before Adnan set off to return to the United States shortly after 9/11?

Posted by DXer on June 7, 2013


75 Responses to “* What did Al Qaeda anthrax lab head Yazid Sufaat discuss at the meeting in Kandahar with Adnan El-Shukrijumah and KSM before Adnan set off to return to the United States shortly after 9/11?”

  1. DXer said

    Under interrogation, the notorious operative “Hambali” of the al-Qaeda affiliated Jemaah Islamiyah declared that al-Qaeda had successfully developed anthrax. This claim was subsequently confirmed by U.S. forces who found traces of high-grade anthrax at al-Qaeda safe houses in Afghanistan. 14 ”

    Next Generation Weapons of Mass Destruction and Weapons of Mass Effects Terrorism Lewis A. Dunn Science Applications International Corporation Andre DeMarce, Rebecca Givner-Forbes, Amanda Grosiak, Matt Kovner, Stephen J. Lukasik, Ned Moran, Thomas Skypek, William Yengst Jennifer L. Perry Defense Threat Reduction Agency Advanced Systems and Concepts Office, January 2008


  2. DXer said

    5 known agency flights reportedly have made over 100 flights since November 9 in and out of Guantanamo, often island hopping. Plane spotter Monkey Werx speculates that they involve rendition activity. He guesses that there will be an announcement of arrests. I have no way of assessing the suggestion.

  3. DXer said

    Who was the accomplice killed along with El-Shukrijumah. By any chance was it Elbaneh (from Buffalo, NY and Yemen)? There was an unconfirmed media report they had been in the Southwestern US at a March 2014 meeting.

    Pakistan says it killed senior al-Qaeda operative charged in NY subway plot

    “His accomplice and local facilitator were also killed in the raid,” the statement added. A Pakistani soldier was also killed in the operation, it said.

    Shukrijumah, a member of al-Qaeda’s leadership, was believed to be in charge of all of the terror network’s external operations. The Saudi-born Shukrijumah, who is in his late 30s, would be the highest ranking al-Qaeda member to be killed by the Pakistani military.

    The FBI launched a global manhunt for Shukrijumah in 2003, offering a $5 million reward for information leading to his arrest. U.S. officials at the time described him as an “imminent threat to U.S. citizens and interests,” adding that he was possibly as significant an organizer of terrorist acts as Mohamed Atta, the suspected ringleader of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    Shukrijumah was identified as a key al-Qaeda operative by Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the senior planner for the terror network. A naturalized U.S. citizen who lived in New York and South Florida, Shukrijumah fled the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.

    According to U.S. officials, he may have traveled on passports from Guyana, Saudi Arabia, Trinidad or Canada. He spoke fluent English with hardly an accent, and was able to blend in to Western cultures easily.

    Shukrijumah trained with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11 attacks, according to U.S. officials. He also met with Jose Padilla, the American accused of planning to detonate a radiological bomb in the United States.

  4. DXer said

    Where was Adnan El-Shukrijumah on the date of mailing of the Fall 2001 anthrax mailings? He left from KSM’s house in Kandahar where Yazid Sufaat also stayed. What did he discuss with Yazid Sufaat when they met? (Hint to Malaysian police: Ask Yazid Sufaat).

    History has taught bounty hunters some guiding principles:

    * especially during wartime, follow the money,
    * obtain the secret plans,
    * obtain the witness statements and contemporaneous records as to travel and whereabouts of those with the motive, means and opportunity,
    * and to obtain the riches, do all you can to access the best history written based on contemporaneous documents, and present it to the people who control access to the riches.

    Fortunately, in Amerithrax — in contrast to other mysteries in which more time has passed (such as the legendary Oak Island treasure mystery) — there are people available to interview about Adnan Shukrijumah’s whereabouts and comings and going.

    There has been an entire secret FBI Task Force in Miami devoted to finding El-Shukrijumah — the FBI chronology of Shukrijumahs’ life would be GAO’s best guide of what the FBI knows of Shukrijumah’s whereabouts in September and October 2001. The lead FBI Special Agent reports that he knows Adnan better than his mom.
    (His mom, for her part, is fond of reporting that Adnan is a “good boy” and would have been involved only in providing America with a wake-up call.)

    She says Adnan called on or about 9/11 and insisted on coming to the US over her protests he would be arrested.

    For reporters, Adnan’s pious brother Nabil or his sister in Alberquerque might be the best sources of information as to his travel in 2001.

    Crooker in the “Oak Island Gold” (Kindle May 26, 2014) is undeterred by the centuries that have passed in solving that legendary mystery. He writes:

    “I found my first hint as to who might have carried out the Money Pit project during the period deduced from the early accounts in Thomas H. Raddall’s HALIFAX, WARDEN OF THE NORTH. Raddall writes about a “wild visitation from the south” following the British invasion of Havana in 1762. According to Raddall, the British fleet and army that captured Havana, Cuba, “with its emormous loot,” arrived in Halifax, and a wild spending spree and party took place while the ships remained moored in the harbour for a winter. Raddall writes: “There followed a saturnalia as this rabble of gaunt sunburned adventurers (Gorham’s Rangers were among them) flung their pistareens, pieces of eight, and doubloons over the tavern bars and into the laps of the prostitutes.” …

    The British capture of Havana in 1762 receives little attention in general histories. Basically forgotten, it was a secret campaign conducted during the Seven Years’ War and overshadowed by battles that decided the destiny of empires. Fortunately, a collection of notes, orders, directives, and communiques covering the undertaking was printed for the Naval Records Society. … The clues and evidence found in this publication, along with other sources, strongly suggest a link with the legendary treasure of Oak Island.


    The division of the booty was ordered in a letter (only a copy exists) dated February 18, 1762, in the king’s name from the Admiralty to Sir George Pocock. The directions specify that the booty from the expedition be distributed between the sea and land forces and that George Keppel, the Earle of Albemarle, settle with Pocock on the manner and proportion of distribution.

    Not surprisingly, prior to landing in Cuba, Albermarle and Pocock drew up an agreement that provided generously for themselves. They stipulated that one-third of the whole be equally divided between them.


    Where was the Crown’s share? It seems strange that the king would pass by the opportunity to demand some of the booty unless secret arrangements had been made with the navy and military commanders to place a portion in safekeeping.”

    Now proving Mr. Crooker’s theory would benefit from knowing what particular ships travelled from Havana to Nova Scotia in 1762 — and stayed over that winter.

    What were the specific names of these ships? Who were the Captains? Were there trained miners and sappers? The ships participated in the sacking of Havana under the Keppel brothers and miners and sappers played a key role in the taking of Morro Castle in Havana — the same expertise is evidenced in the digging of the five finger drain and the flood tunnel at Oak Island, Nova Scotia.

    Through an 1849 biography of Augustus Keppel, I have divined the names of ships to include the following (I have not included Spanish prizes): Alarm, Aleide, Barbadoes, Basilisk, Belleisle, Bonetta, Boreas, Cambridge, Centaur, Cerberus, Culloden, Cygnet, Defiance, Deptford, Devonshire, Dover, Dragon, Dublin, Echo, Enterprize, Ferret, Fowey, Glascow, Grenada, Hampton Court, Hampshire, Intrepid, Lizard, Lurcher, Marlborough, Mercury, Merlin, Nottingham, Orford, Pembroke, Penzance, Porcupine, Port Mahon, Port Royal, Richmond, Rippon, Rose, Stirling Castle, Sutherland, Temeraire, Temple, Thunder, Trent, Valiant, Viper.

    The wonderful British Warships in the Age of Sail: 1714-1792 (2007) provides ship intineraries as could be gathered from the record studied.

    My brother was once Captain of a ship in the US Navy during wartime — the ship’s motto was “Not Impossible, Just Difficult” hung over my bed throughout my childhood.

    I didn’t realize that my brother and my mom meant it as an inside joke.

  5. DXer said

    “After the information about the 80,000 pages came to light, Graham went to the FBI and asked how the agency could lie to Congress. He says the number two man at the agency told him to come back in a week and the FBI would provide all the documents it had previously said didn’t exist.

    But when Graham came back a week later, he says he was told by the same man that the agency wasn’t going to let him see anything or talk to anyone in the FBI.

    That leads Graham to ask, “Why has the federal government, including some of its most prestigious agencies, gone to such lengths to cover up what they know?”

    Graham believes the reason for the cover-up can be found in 28 pages of the Congressional Investigation into 9/11 — which Graham helped write — that remain classified to this day. According to Graham, the 28 pages show an even stronger connection to Saudi Arabia’s involvement that the U.S. government wants to hide from the public.

    “This is the most confounding, troubling, disturbing thing,” Graham says. “This is one of the few things I have trouble going to sleep at night.”

    Graham and a growing group in Congress are concerned that the United States is vulnerable to another terrorist attack, and he says the American public needs to know the truth.

    “I am not the Lone Ranger on this. In fact, the people who know the most about it are the ones who have the most trouble sleeping.”

    Graham says the more you know, the worse it gets and that if the Broward Bulldog — a non-profit news service — hadn’t won a Freedom of Information lawsuit, the latest documents would still be withheld from the American public.”

  6. DXer said

    His daughter is so thoughtful and charming that Yazid Sufaat and his defense counsel should do all they can to think out of the box and take advantage of how much he has to share about Al Qaeda’s anthrax program.

    Rauf Ahmad, who infiltrated Western labs and conferences (attended by Bruce Ivins) at Ayman Zawahiri’s direction, got a free walk and was protected by the Pakistan government.

    The law seems fickle when, for example, in Boston, Martarano gets 5 years for 19 murders — on the condition of him giving witness against American gangster Whitey Bulger. But that’s what happened. (Yazid Sufaat has already served 9 or 10).

    And remember that biological weapons scientist down in South Africa who got to walk through a reconciliation?

    The only requirement was that he speak fully about the past and not lie.

    (p.s. GAO, did South Africa have Ames? As I recall, the CIA in 2002 or so paid a large amount of money for the collection from the doctor’s assistant. But book author and documentary fillmaker Nadler would better know the details.)

    Yazid Sufaat’s court date, as I recall, is August 18, 2014.

    When I interviewed him, he did not deny responsibility for the Fall 2001 anthrax mailings. He “pled the Fifth.”


    “Can you understand? Someone, somewhere, can you understand me a little, love me a little? For all my despair, for all my ideals, for all that – I love life. But it is hard, and I have so much – so very much to learn. — Sylvia Plath”

  7. DXer said

    There is a new story today (January 16, 2014) about Yazid Sufaat.

    No written judgment, so terror suspect remains in jail

    Lawyers for Yazid Sufaat had written two letters to the Court of Appeal registry and made several verbal enquires to find out when the written judgment would be ready.

    “We do not know how long we have to wait,” counsel Amer Hamzah Arshad told The Malaysian Insider.

    He said the apex court could not hear Yazid’s appeal without a written ground.

    Amer said Yazid, a former Internal Security Act detainee, could not be freed pending appeal because the offence of allegedly “promoting terrorist activities in Syria” was not bailable.

    “For this reason, we expect the court to expedite the appeal since the liberty of a person was at stake,” he said.

    Amer said a 2012 court practice direction stated that judgment must be made ready within eight weeks after an appellant filed a notice of appeal.

    On June 18, a three-man Court of Appeal bench led by Datuk Abu Samah Nordin overturned a High Court ruling which ordered Yazid Sufaat be set free.

    Abu Samah had since been promoted to Federal Court judge.

    Also freed were cafeteria helper Muhammad Hilmi Hasim and religious teacher Halimah Hussein who were charged with abetting Sufaat at a house in Ampang between August and October 2012.

    The three faced charges framed under Section 130G of the Penal Code and could be jailed up to 30 years upon conviction.

    However, Halimah went missing after the High Court ruling on May 20 and police are on the lookout for her. Muhammad Hilmi is in detention.

    High Court judge Kamardin Hashim acquitted the trio after allowing their application to have the charges against them struck out.

    He said the procedures under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012 (Sosma), could not be used against the three, as it was ultra vires Article 149 of the Federal Constitution.

    Amer had argued that Sosma was only passed to deal with security threats in Malaysia, not outside the federation.

    The trio, charged on February 8, 2013, were the first to be subjected to Sosma procedures – one of them is for the prosecution to admit evidence without requiring the witness to attend court.

    Yazid was detained for seven years under the now repealed ISA in 2001 on suspicion of being involved with the Jemaah Islamiyah militant group. – January 16, 2014.

  8. DXer said

    In Amerithrax, there was fascinating evidence relating to a late night drive to Ithaca to leave a gift anonymously for an ex-co-worker on whom he apparently had a crush. He had received a ticket. Late night drives and long drives to Ithaca are not unusual — I’ve done them myself. Investigators gave it undue weight. It was evidence of travel on wildly different date or a radically different purpose — whereas the evidence of Adnan El-Shukrijumah’s travel was closely coincident with the mailings by someone on a terrorist mission.

    But that traffic stop by a trooper is a very fascinating data point — not so much that it is probative of the Fall 2001 anthrax mailings but because we know what we are looking at. It would constitute admissible evidence. It is a stand-alone contemporaneous documentary evidence rather than the easily manipulated assertions and characterizations you see going back and forth between the FBI and USAMRIID scientists.

    Maybe the solution to Amerithrax, for example, relates to the amounts of Ames grown over a period of years by his assistants and maybe drying was done in Building 1412 or using the special equipment that was built for the DARPA experiment and used in Building 1412. That’s why we need greater transparency about the special equipment that was built for the DARPA-funded dry powder aerosolization experiments. Was that part of Project Jefferson? Is that why the USAMRIID powers-that-be and scientists are so skittish about speaking out of school? They shouldn’t be. We are talking about 2001. It soon will be 2014. This is historical archive stuff. We need to know about that special equipment in order to judge access both to Ames and drying capability.

    Locally, hopefully the FBI will canvass the cameras in the university area for the perp who seems to be wearing distinctive clothing for additional leads in what is quickly becoming a series of local bank robberies. For example, his sneakers were unusually sloppy in one photo.

    Facial recognition could compare the two and would confirm they are the same person — in the second robbery he is even smirking. It’s time to wipe the smirk off his face.

    There may be leads from the first robbery from other cameras in the university area — relating to his sneakers and the long black case it seems he was carrying. Was it a pool cue? Is he visiting from outside the area?

    With such good photos, the FBI needs to use facial recognition software to search state databases — it seems that publicity about any leads might be fruitful.

    The profile by local posters points to a drug problem. But it seems that he is so reckless that the long black thing he is holding is probably an extremely good foot in the door.

    If visiting from out of town, he needs to be staying somewhere.

  9. DXer said

    Dear past, thank you for your lessons. Dear future, I’m ready.
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

  10. DXer said

    ” In 2003, FBI and US intelligence officials told the press that Shukrijumah then came back to the US with a particularly lethal purpose: to coordinate terrorist attacks on American soil after September 11, 2001. …

    A CIA analysis dated July 13, 2004, and titled “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Preeminent Source on Al Qaeda” includes this corroborating detail: “KSM has also spoken at length about operative Jafar al Tayyar, admitting that al Qaeda had tasked al Tayyar to case specific targets in New York City in 2001.”

    Comment: Q: What attacks were there after 9/11? A: The Fall 2001 anthrax mailings.

    Q: Who did he case targets with? Q: Where did he stay while in the area?

    Al Qaeda sleeper agent tied to 2009 NYC subway plot
    By THOMAS JOSCELYNJuly 1, 2010

    Read more:

    Zazi himself may have met with Shukrijumah, according to the New York Daily News.

    Shukrijumah is thought to be one of al Qaeda’s top leaders in its external, or global, operations network. Shukrijumah is al Qaeda’s operations chief for North America, US intelligence officials have told The Long War Journal. Officials told The Associated Press that Shukrijumah is a top contender to lead al Qaeda’s global operations.

    The “next” Mohammed Atta

    Since 2003, Shukrijumah has been one of the most wanted al Qaeda terrorists in the world. On March 20, 2003, the FBI released a “Be on the Lookout” alert for Shukrijumah (aka Jafar al Tayyar, or Jafar “the Pilot”). In the days that followed, press outlets reported some of the details on el Shukrijumah’s suspicious career.

    Shukrijumah had lived in the US for years and attended a mosque in Florida where he mixed with radicals. At some point, Shukrijumah traveled to Afghanistan where he allegedly received training in al Qaeda’s camps and was groomed by senior al Qaeda leaders for future missions. In 2003, FBI and US intelligence officials told the press that Shukrijumah then came back to the US with a particularly lethal purpose: to coordinate terrorist attacks on American soil after September 11, 2001.


    A CIA analysis dated July 13, 2004, and titled “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Preeminent Source on Al Qaeda” includes this corroborating detail: “KSM has also spoken at length about operative Jafar al Tayyar, admitting that al Qaeda had tasked al Tayyar to case specific targets in New York City in 2001.”

    Read more:

    • DXer said

      Queens native Mohammed Bubair Junaid was at a March 2004 meeting with El-Shukrijumah in 2004 along with Al-Hindi (Dhiren Barot). Junaid left the US not long after 9/11.

      What is this Man Plotting?,9171,682236,00.html

      Al-Hindi had helped case New York City and Washington, D.C. targets in 2001. As I recall, Al-Hindi stayed with his relative in New Jersey. Did El-Shukrijumah, also tasked with casing targets in New York and DC, stay with him?

      Al-Hindi arrived in the US in August 2000 on a student visa to attend an Upstate New York community college. He returned to the UK in April 2001.

      Bin Laden Al-Hindi to the US to case targets.

      “The account of Mr. Hindi’s being dispatched to New York was based on claims by the mastermind, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, while in American custody, the report said. But American officials said on Friday that it is consistent with other evidence that Mr. Hindi headed a three-man team that surveyed the New York Stock Exchange and other buildings in New York, probably in early 2001.”

      The anthrax letters were sent to targets in New York City and Washington, D.C.

      “The officials said information was being very closely held, and said investigators at some agencies were concerned that the publication of too much detailed information could jeopardize their efforts.”

      “Senior government officials said that Mr. Hindi – the name is thought to be an alias – was believed to have visited the United States several times in 2000 and 2001, the same period in which reconnaissance of financial institutions in New York, New Jersey and Washington that was discovered last week is believed to have taken place.”

      “Mr. Mohammed was the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, but law enforcement and intelligence officials said on Friday that they did not believe Mr. Hindi had been involved in that operation, and suspected that he would not have personally carried out any future attack that might be in the works.

      “There was classic compartmentalization taking place,” one of the officials said, adding, “This guy doesn’t know who was doing the operation.”

      Compartmentalization also characterized Dr. Zawahiri’s anthrax program, which was more elite and more highly compartmentalized than AQ’s chem program.

      The Sept. 11 commission report, identifying him as Mr. Britani, says that Mr. Hindi was sent by Mr. Mohammed to Malaysia in late 1998 or early 1999 to visit Hambali, whose real name is Riduan Ismuddin, in order to learn about terrorism operations in Southeast Asia.”

      Hambali is the one who brought in Yazid Sufaat.

      Mohammed Bubair Junaid was arrested in New York in April 2004 upon his return from Pakistan. On June 2, 2004, pleaded guilty to five counts of providing, and conspiring to provide, money and supplies to Al Qaeda terrorists fighting in Afghanistan against U.S., international forces, or the Northern Alliance. Facing up to 70 years in prison in U.S. he agreed to cooperate with authorities.

      “N.Y. man [Mohammed Junaid Babar] admits he aided al Qaeda set up jihad camp,” CNN, August 11, 2004

      What did El-Shukrijumah discuss with Yazid Sufaat before setting off for the US shortly after 911?

  11. DXer said

    As Yazid Sufaat’s court date on November 19, 2013 approaches, his daughter writes:

    “Who will go to hell? Whoever that doesn’t have Allah’s Mercy.” 13 days ago

    “What was the last movie that made you think? Thor: The Dark World. Thinking who actually died, must not be Loki right?” 13 days ago

    I went to see Thor last week because Soraya separately mentioned and emphasized the “last scene” on Twitter. But when I saw the movie I didn’t realize that there were additional scenes and left at the start of the rolling of the credits.

    Upon reading movie reviews (complete with spoilers) — and putting aside a teaser for a sequel mid-credits — the “last scene” has Thor kissing Jane on the balcony. (Soraya is very romantic and so it makes sense that the scene would appeal to her).

    But then, at the movies yesterday, I was discussing the movies currently out with the cashier. She was telling me people think that maybe Thor was actually Loki in disguise. The cashier suggested that in a fight scene when he said “I didn’t do it for you, I did it for ….” he was actually going to say “Jane.” (Earlier, she had slapped Loki and said “That’s for New York!”. In response, Loki had said something like, “I like that woman.”)

    Although extremely fond of Jane myself, I had to disagree.

    IMO, Thor gets the girl.

    And Loki had reign supreme in his imaginary kingdom (through his trickery and deception).

    So what is my one-time Facebook Friend Sufaat do as to the charges against him?

    Well, I guess that depends on whether his wife’s religious teacher, Halimah, was captured. An attorney by training, she went on the lam and there’s been no report of her capture that I’ve seen.

    But it is my hope that Yazid recognizes that, above all, he should not be boring.*/ It makes for a lousy movie script.

    Moreover, he should assume that Halimah was secretly captured and pursuant to the guidance under the Quran, was permitted to spill the beans after initially resisting.

    */There’s still time to grow a mustache to celebrate Movember and have Soraya forward me a photo.

    • DXer said

      Soraya’s Twitter feed as Yazid Sufaat’s court date approaches:

      Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur13 Nov
      Even a honk from a car makes me jump now

      Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur13 Nov
      Yes we are all a stubborn creature; us, humans.

      Sylvia Plath ‏@itssylviaplath2 Oct
      Clocks cry: stillness is a lie, my dear; the wheels revolve, the universe keeps running.
      Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

      Sylvia Plath ‏@itssylviaplath13 Oct
      You feel the days slipping by, elusive as slippery pink worms, through your fingers, and you wonder what you have for your years.
      Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

      Sylvia Plath ‏@itssylviaplath30 Oct
      I should have murdered this, that murders me.
      Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

      Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur13 Nov
      This guilty feeling oh god

      Soraya, I still am guessing that Yazid holds the key to the prison door simply by identifying the anthrax strain he was using — on the reasoning he already served his time for his role in Dr. Ayman’s anthrax program.

      The truth about Al Qaeda’s anthrax planning, whatever it is, likely will come out. it may open some prison doors and keep others closed.

      Here are some more Plath quotes.

      “I can never read all the books I want; I can never be all the people I want and live all the lives I want. I can never train myself in all the skills I want. And why do I want? I want to live and feel all the shades, tones and variations of
      mental and physical experience possible in life. And I am horribly limited.”
      ― Sylvia Plath

      “Can you understand? Someone, somewhere, can you understand me a little, love me a little? For all my despair, for all my ideals, for all that – I love life. But it is hard, and I have so much – so very much to learn.”
      ― Sylvia Plath, The Journals of Sylvia Plath

      “I felt my lungs inflate with the onrush of scenery—air, mountains, trees, people. I thought, “This is what it is to be happy.”
      ― Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar

      “I didn’t know why I was going to cry, but I knew that if anybody spoke to me or looked at me too closely the tears would fly out of my eyes and the sobs would fly out of the throat and I’d cry for a week.”
      ― Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar

      “Character is fate.”
      ― Sylvia Plath

      “Why do we electrocute men for murdering an individual and then pin a purple heart on them for mass slaughter of someone arbitrarily labeled “enemy?”
      ― Sylvia Plath

  12. DXer said

    As news of Yazid Sufaat’s court date approaches, we can see his beliefs and influence on his children and his level of commitment to his beliefs in his tweets before his arrest. He believes that his daughters should first consider a suitor’s commitment to the same creed. (aqidah). I don’t see why Malaysian authorities in 2008 thought he had changed his ways. Authorities perhaps mistook his affability for flexibility in his beliefs. Yazid will always be a man of his convictions — and his commitment to violence and the murder of innocents rather than peaceful coexistence. He had influence over young children before they reached the age of reason. The same was true in the case of Ayman Zawahiri’s upbringing by his parents, grandparents and uncle. Dr. Ayman has spent a lifetime acting out based on what he was taught (and committed to memory) as a child. Old books are great. But not when they lead to the murder of innocents. Yazid retweets “A 100 years from now when you are alone in your grave, no one will care…The only thing that will matter then will be your righteous deeds.” The murder of innocents is not righteous. Yazid is simply confused — it seems a matter of lack of reading comprehension. It was his mother-in-law who encouraged him after returning to Malaysia from the US.

    Ottilie Lundgren was righteous. Yazid Sufaat is not.

    Yazid Sufaat ‏@marwanhadeed4 Sep 12
    @sorayaanur remember silly mistake is a mistake too, get it write Champ!

    Omar Farooq ‏@RajaOmarFarooq28 Nov
    Whoever disbelieves in a single letter of Qur’an has disbelieved in its entirety

    Yazid Sufaat ‏@marwanhadeed29 Nov
    @smellthedeen how do you define extremist~

    Yazid Sufaat ‏@marwanhadeed4 Oct 12
    Do not use the sharpness of ur speech on d mother who thot u how to speak, Ali Abi Taalib ra

    IslamicReflections ‏@AllahsFavours22 Nov
    Don’t waste your time looking back at what you lost. Move on. Remember.. Life is not meant to be traveled backwards.. #selfReminder

    Omar Farooq ‏@RajaOmarFarooq25 Nov
    There is nothing more beautiful then a Women who fears Allah
    Taqwa is her makeup and Wudu is her perfume
    Retweeted by Yazid Sufaat

    Omar Farooq ‏@RajaOmarFarooq26 Nov
    A 100 years from now when you are alone in your grave, no one will care…The only thing that will matter then will be your righteous deeds
    Retweeted by Yazid Sufaat

    Whoever disbelieves in a single letter of Qur’an has disbelieved in its entirety
    Imām Alī ibn Abī Tālib
    Retweeted by Yazid Sufaat

    Chomel Mohamad ‏@DursinaMohamad15 Oct 12
    The best relationship is when you can act like lovers and best friends at the same time. love u @marwanhadeed~
    Retweeted by Yazid Sufaat

    Yazid Sufaat ‏@marwanhadeed20 Dec
    Banks are mafias and the Central Bank is the godfather

    @Alhamdhulillaah28 Jan
    If you think that no one is listening to you, just remember that there is someone up who is willing to listen to you anytime.
    Retweeted by Yazid Sufaat

  13. DXer said

    Yazid Sufaat’s daughter, who seems to be very thoughtful woman, has set up a webpage where you can ask her a question. It is a very stressful time for her but I recommend reporters ask her about her father’s up coming court date — I believe it is in a little over two weeks.

    • Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur21 Oct
    I just kind of wish none of it ever happened

    • Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur21 Oct
    “Obsessive thinking will eventually wear a hole in your mind.”

    • Soraya Yazid ‏@sorayaanur20 Oct
    Ask me a question

    • DXer said

      Yesterday I asked Yazid’s thoughful daughter what she thought of the FBI’s “Ivins Theory” but haven’t heard back yet.

      I appreciate we each have our separate focus but I do think there is an overlap in interests.

      What do you think is the best gift for wedding?whatever the bride and the groom wants really, actually

      • DXer said

        I asked Yazid Sufaat’s sweet daughter:

        “Soraya, I post under the screen name “DXer”. A couple years ago, he and your mom were very gracious in fielding substantive questions I had. It is a great testament to the character to forthrightly answer questions – declining to answer rather than speak an untruth.”

        She replied:

        “Who are you actually, DXer?”

        I answered the best I could. KC2VDX. A progressive attorney in Syracuse. A true crime hobbyist. A treasure hunter. A lover of lovers of books.

        Ali Al-Timimi was the lead speaker of a charity that had a spin-off here. 100 agents raided Al-Timimi and simultaneously interviewed 150 people here in early 2003 — though numerous agencies had worked the matter for many months prior to that.

        A friend of mine, “Tawfiq” Hamid, was recruited by Ayman Zawahiri. That was one reason I came to be so interested in Cairo Medical school alum in the United States like Dahab, who was taught by EIJ head of intelligence Ali Mohammed how to make lethal letters.

        I’ve been making the same argument publicly since late 2001 when it seemed that the FBI was unaware of Dr. Ayman Zawahiri’s anthrax planning and the announced motive. Having lived in Arlington VA, my interest in true crime analysis included counterintelligence analysis — and so I followed matters such as the case of Aldrich Ames.

        “Tawfiq” consults with the CIA but I know him only by reason of having once called him cold to interview him. (Although I lived about a block from DIA in Arlington, VA for many years, I’ve never worked for any three-letter alphabet agency).

        I believe the best way to find something out is to call or email them — people tend to be very nice if you treat them with respect. When people don’t respond or cooperate or hide behind lawyers I tend to think they are hiding something.

        I’m a big fan of the FBI although I think an “Ivins Theory” is mistaken — and before that I thought a Hatfill Theory was mistaken.

        Someone asked Soraya:

        “What was the last movie that made you think?

        Soraya responded:

        “Thor: The Dark World. Thinking who actually died, must not be Loki right?”

        I think life is too short to engage in deception. If it cannot be done while being truthful, it is not worth doing.

        OTOH, Dr. Ayman Zawahiri thinks “war is deception”. (see his book on Covert Operations attempting to justify lies under the Quran.) (e.g., shave your beard, don’t go to mosque etc.) That’s his right.

        But IMO real men don’t hide behind lies or smirking false denials.

        I think Adnan El-Shukrijumah is the mailer of the Fall 2001 anthrax mailers given he was living with KSM on 9/13/2001 when he called his mother and told her he was coming to the US.

        I don’t know what else there is. … I like playing scrabble and taking pictures, posting under the screen name luluandlucy at

        Most of all, I love parks of all kinds and nature and wildlife. I used to paddle a canoe or kayak daily when the weather was nice.

        Right now I am trying to push through purchase of a 60 acre island so I can be near some swans, blue herons, snakes and turtles. I am trying to have it preserved as a wildlife preserve and am just days away from succeeding.

        If Soraya and Chomel come to value peace and respect for differences, they are welcome anytime. I wish Yazid well in his legal travails. I think his best legal argument is that he has already served his sentence for the anthrax program.

        As for Syria, well, it is hard to sort that all out at the moral level given that from what is publicly known it seems to have involved discussion over tea at a food stall in Malaysia. But I have recommended to Chomel, by speaking the truth about the anthrax program — and at least identifying the strain he was using — he will show the courage of a truth-teller rather than hiding behind a veil of lies. He will be a famous truth-teller rather than an unimportant casualty in a disagreement with some nation-state’s law.

        Someone asks:

        “Who will go to hell?”

        Soraya replies: “Whoever that doesn’t have Allah’s Mercy.”

        Although not religious myself, I respect the religious belief system of others — and appreciate that often they were socialized into their beliefs by their parents at a young age. Sometimes it is enough that people have books in common without necessarily liking or knowing the same books.

        • DXer said

          Of course the most interesting true crime or counterintelligence analysis cases are the ones with a $5 million or $25 million reward.

          The head of Amerithrax, Vincent Lisi, is now head of the Boston Field Office in charge of Isabella Gardner art heist. There is a $5 million reward for return of the paintings in good condition.

          Former FBI Agent Wittman says the FBI is “barking up the wrong tree” in pursing the Philly lead. (Wittman was based in Philly FBI Field Office).

          If the beautiful Soraya helped me crack the Gardner case — following her passion for art — we could split the $5 million reward 50/50. Win, win, win.

          The Biggest Unsolved Art Heist—and the Detective Who Came Close

          On Isabella Gardner, my aim has been to prompt people to consider why the FBI does not credit the informant’s report that all but two of the paintings are ruined — and that the two are in rough shape. I haven’t read this Mental Floss article yet because I just got back from Philadelphia — where once again I didn’t see the paintings.

          I got the internal FBI documents, the informant reports, from a friend who got them (I am guessing), from a lawyer representing a defendant in a related prosecution many years ago involving a brilliantly executed armored car sting involving Carmello Merlino’s crew.

          I haven’t read this current article yet but read Mr. Wittman’s book PRICELESS.

        • DXer said

          FBI Special Agent Vincent Lisi,

          Ever hear of a Larry “Day” Scolovano, a NJ mobster who was killed in December 1991?

        • DXer said

        • DXer said

          Yazid Sufaat’s position next week is a lot like the position of gangsters stateside that may have been involved in the yet untold backstory of the Isabella Gardner art heist — which I’ll have to leave to a leading investigative reporter to someday tell.

          Suffice it to say that there was a mobster who “sought to swing his own deal. Within days of his arraignment, there was a mobster who “entered in a plea deal with the government.”

          “He, too, was required to be truthful and be prepared to testify. But in recounting his life of crime to FBI agents in May 2000,” he “let loose with the last thing that” his former colleague, also cooperating with the FBI, would have wanted them to find out” — that the cooperating colleague had concealed at least three other murders from investigators.”

          In a letter to U.S. District Judge Dickinson Debevoise in June, Assistant U.S. Attorney Laura Kaplan identified the victims as Larry “Larry Day” Scolovano …

          “The turnabout, however, came as no surprise to mob experts.” Once the one defendant “joined forces with the feds, whatever he got in return was fair play by the mob’s code.”

          “All the rules go out the window when there’s cooperation with law enforcement, especially with that crime family…”

          “It’s every man for himself at that point (2001/08/07 Tuesday Page: 001 Section: NEWS Edition: FINAL Size: 1608 words).” (1998/11/07 Saturday Page: 018 Section: NEWS Edition: ESSEX Size: 247 words, Robert Rudolph)”

          I know of no moral codes under which truth-telling would be frowned upon. My lay (and slight) understanding of the jihadists’ interpretation of the Quran is that the Quran counsels resistance but at a certain point, the jihadist is free to talk freely, leaving all things to Allah.

        • DXer said

          The FBI disagrees with me both on Amerithrax and Isabella Gardner.

          “What’s really suspicious,” Wittman says, “is that even though a generation has passed, not one single object has resurfaced on the market.” For those who believe that some or all of the works have been destroyed, Kelly, of the Art Crime Team, begs to differ. “That rarely happens,” he says,” Because the one trump card a criminal holds when’s he’s arrested is that he has access to stolen art.”

          Agent Kelly’s argument does not address the fact that Carmello Merlino offered the paintings back to state authorities in 1991 in consideration of a reduction of the cocaine distribution charges he and David Turner faced. His offer was rejected.

          Nor does it address that Merlino would have had no reason to tell the informant that all but two of the paintings were ruined. I once uploaded the informant’s report but took it down to hone the blog’s focus. It would have been against both Merlino’s interest — in arranging to turn in the paintings for the reward — and against the interest of the informant. Neither would have a reason to tell that untruth.

          Agent Kelly’s view may be informed by how unreliable the informant was in general. That’s Tony Amore’s privately expressed view at least. (But it seems that even unreliable informants act according to their incentive). Agent Kelly of course has a vast amount of additional information relating to the sting in Merlino’s garage (and otherwise) that is not available to me. Thus, I certainly wish him well in finding the paintings in good condition. … So long as Agent Wittman is also looking in places that are not temperature-controlled etc., the reasonable disagreement is not important. Call me old-fashioned, but am biased in favor of the theory that the secret of the pirate/gangster’s loot has been lost to history because (1) he was precipitously killed or (2) he stubbornly took the secret to his grave (because the paintings were ruined and so there was no profit to be had). Agent Kelly never returned my call when I pointed in a telephone message to the place I suggested Joe Murray could have hidden the paintings in Maine before he did that day in his kitchen.

          By analogy to Amerithrax, so long as Vahid Majidi swabbed other suspect labs for the genetically matching subtilis, there was no problem in developing and very seriously testing an “Ivins Theory.”

          But the FBI didn’t swab other suspect labs — and that was serious investigative error. It was extremely unscientific. It was just one of many mistakes and factual misapprehensions. It simply not true that the FBI leaves no stone unturned. That’s just PR.

          In Amerithrax, the FBI actually closed Amerithrax on Vahid’s uninformed supposition that Al Qaeda would not engage in false denials — when in fact that is exactly what had been done in the case of 911 and the 1998 embassy bombings. It was exactly the pattern of the Al Hayat letter bombs — involving letters to DC and NYC newspapers and people in symbolic positions relating to the detention of the Blind Sheik and WTC 1993 bombers.

          The FBI should never allow broad suppositions and profiling substitute for wearing down some shoe leather. It is never too late to be right — until it is.

          So if Agent Kelly has thoroughly considered Robert Guarente’s former house property in Maine — and not merely conducted a physical search without the benefit of ground penetrating radar and/or claw digger — I have no problem with his theory that the paintings were offered to the Philly mob. Indeed, given Merlino’s family connection to that mob, I have no doubt that they were. It’s just easier to look under unturned stones when they aren’t over dead bodies.

          The Mental Floss article this week states: “no real art buy is going to pay $350,000 for hot art that they can’t ever sell.” Joe Murray, who I suggested may have bought the paintings for $350,000, was not a real art buyer. He was the biggest pot trafficker in the northeast who could then use the paintings for collateral in drug deals. Agent Kelly recognizes that was a very possible motive of the art heist.

          I think it best to say it is worth pursuing alternative hypotheses. … although I wouldn’t prioritize art crimes at all. Violent crime should be the FBI’s priority.

          The FBI should be commended for all its great work involving violent criminals. The job is never-ending.

        • DXer said

          As for the dispute between the FBI and the former Agent Wittman, I agree with the FBI.

          “”The FBI takes issue with Wittman’s comments. “When we said in March that we had the identities of the Gardner thieves, that was definitely not a bluff,” says Boston-based FBI special agent Greg Comcowich, who stresses that Wittman is no longer with the agency. “Speculating at this point is not acceptable,” he says. Comcowich says another agent tracked down the French agent who worked closely on the Gardner case with Wittman. “He told me Wittman was telling a fairy tale,” Comcowich says.”

          That is, I think the FBI is right on track when they say that Robert Guarente had the paintings up in Maine in 1991 or so. Now whether they are up there — or in Connecticut or in Philly or some place else now — I don’t know. I would start by interviewing Robert’s ex son-in-law to see if he can help.

          The FBI say that by the March press 2013 announcement they were seeking to cast a wider net. Ironically, when Agent Wittman was not on the yacht with those strawberry-eating bikini clad women, he was based in Philadelphia. We should never overlook the possibility that the solution of a crime is right under their nose. And even if we disagree with their theory on the merits we can pay props to undercovers given the risks that they take and sacrifices they make. (At the same time, taxpayer money should not be used to rent yachts to get back some rich person’s painting; Wittman’s superiors were right to shut down the operation when it didn’t bear fruit.)

    • DXer said

      2 November 2013 Last updated at 05:45 ETShare this page

      How do terrorists communicate?

      By Frank Gardner
      BBC security correspondent

      Email and SMS text message. Wary terrorist planners have tended to communicate in code or use metaphors when discussing targets, knowing they may well be intercepted. For example, two of the 9/11 planners, Mohammed Atta and Ramzi Binalshibh, referred to the World Trade Centre as “architecture”, the Pentagon as “arts” and the White House as “politics”.

      Social media, chat rooms and gaming. An increasingly popular way of disguising messages in seemingly innocuous interchanges

  14. DXer said

    Does Vahid Majidi know what Adnan El-Shukrijumah and Sufaat spoke about before Adnan headed off to the US the week after 9/11?

  15. DXer said

    On 9/11, there was a lengthy, good profile on KSM by BBC.

  16. DXer said

    Kes Yazid Sufaat Dan Pembantu Kafeteria Disebut Semula 19 Nov

    KUALA LUMPUR, 17 Sept (Bernama) — Mahkamah Tinggi di sini Selasa menetapkan 19 Nov untuk sebutan semula kes bekas tahanan Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (ISA) Yazid Sufaat dan pembantu kafeteria yang didakwa terlibat dalam aktiviti menggalakkan keganasan di Syria.

    Hakim Datuk Mohd Azman Husin menetapkan tarikh itu selepas kes itu disebut di hadapannya.

    Terdahulu Timbalan Pendakwa Raya Mohd Farizul Hassan Bakri memaklumkan bahawa Mahkamah Persekutuan masih belum menetapkan tarikh pendengaran terhadap rayuan oleh Yazid dan Muhammad Hilmi Hasim terhadap keputusan Mahkamah Rayuan.

    Yazid dan Muhammad Hilmi sebelum ini dibebaskan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi selepas membenarkan permohonan mereka untuk membatalkan pertuduhan tersebut bagaimanapun Mahkamah Rayuan pada 18 Jun lepas memerintahkan kes itu dikembalikan ke Mahkamah Tinggi selepas membenarkan permohonan pendakwaan terhadap pembebasan mereka.

    Peguam New Sin Yew yang mewakili Yazid, 49, dan Muhammad Hilmi,33, ketika ditemui pemberita memberitahu pihaknya menfailkan notis rayuan pada 21 Jun lepas namun sehingga kini masih belum menerima maklum balas daripada Mahkamah Persekutuan.

    Pada Februari lepas, Yazid yang merupakan pengusaha kafeteria di Kompleks Mahkamah Jalan Duta didakwa memajukan ideologi bertujuan menghasut orang ramai di Syria agar melakukan keganasan manakala Muhammad Hilmi dan seorang suri rumah Halimah Hussein didakwa bersubahat dengannya.

    Mereka didakwa melakukan perbuatan itu di sebuah rumah di Taman Bukit Ampang antara 1 Ogos dan 20 Okt tahun lepas.

    Yazid didakwa mengikut Seksyen 130G(a) Kanun Keseksaan (Akta 574) manakala Halimah dan Muhammad Hilmi didakwa mengikut Seksyen 109 kanun sama, yang membawa hukuman maksimum penjara 30 tahun dan denda, jika sabit kesalahan.


  17. DXer said

    Herald-Tribune joins suit asking FBI for Saudi documents

    By Michael Pollick
    Published: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.

    “The FBI also found no evidence of hijacker vehicles having visited the (name deleted) residence,” according to the Sept. 15, 2010, document from the Counterterrorism Division, Guantanamo Detaineee Prosecution Section.

    That federal report says that the “FBI appears not to have obtained the vehicle entry records of the gated community, given the lack of connection to the hijackers.”

    Prestancia house records

    What started the back-and-forth over documents was the Bulldog’s 10th anniversary 9/11 story, published on the news organization’s website and also in the Herald-Tribune, Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times.

    The article revealed details about a large, previously undisclosed FBI investigation centering on 4224 Escondito Circle, the home in Prestancia owned by prominent Saudi businessman Esam Ghazzawi.

    His daughter, Anoud, and her husband, Abdulazziz al-Hijji, lived there until two weeks prior to 9/11, before departing suddenly for their homeland. They left food on the counter, a dirty diaper, three vehicles and an empty safe.

    “Phone records and the Prestancia gate records linked the house on Escondito Circle to the hijackers,” the Broward Bulldog reported.

    Within days after it was published, the FBI issued a press release seeking to discredit the article’s findings and its sourcing.

    That prompted Christensen to file both state and national public record requests, which already have yielded a few shreds of interest.

    One particular investigative report, released not by the federal government but by a state agency, shows that in March 2004 — two and a half years after 9/11 — the FBI was still asking questions about Abdulazziz al-Hijji.

    In that document, Wissam Hammoud — a Sarasota cell phone store owner facing serious federal charges — told an FBI agent and Sarasota County Sheriff’s detective that he believed his friend Al-Hijji had known some of the 9/11 terrorists who had been taking flight training at Venice Airport in the year leading up to the attacks.

    Hammoud told investigators that during 2000 and 2001, he had played soccer with al-Hijji in this region. Al-Hijji had brought a friend to the games who Hammoud claimed was Adnan El Shukrijumah, a man who was federally indicted in 2010 for his alleged role in a terrorist plot to attack New York City’s subway system.

    That plot was discovered and thwarted in 2009.

    The FBI is currently offering a $5 million reward for information leading to El Shukrijumah’s capture, and he is listed by the FBI as being one of the nation’s “most wanted terrorists.”

    The agency states on its “Wanted” poster that Al-Qaida leaders planned the attack from Pakistan, and that Shukrijumah was part of Al-Qaida’s external operations hierarchy in that effort.

    His current whereabouts are unknown.

  18. DXer said

    Yazid Sufaat had set up an account for Moussaoui to use called greenlab@usa… I believe the FBI accessed it on September 18, 2001. What emails did it contain?

  19. DXer said

    Times of India
    Matt Damon: Edward Snowden did a great thing

    CNET (blog)-by Chris Matyszczyk-Aug 26, 2013
    In a brief interview slipped onto YouTube, the actor who must know a thing or two about the covert world offers that Edward Snowden seems …

    Yes, but Matt, what do you think? Why don’t you work for the NSA?

  20. DXer said

    At the New York Botanical Garden in the Bronx today, at the library there I saw all these medieval texts in different language about medicinal herbs. Exquisite, well-preserved books inaccessible to me because of the different language. I’m reminded that intelligence analysis limited to English is woefully inadequate from the start. And the CIA’s publicly available Foreign Broadcast Information Service is certainly not comprehensive in its coverage. Local interviews of previous operatives or detainees could contain dramatic information — for example, consider an interview of Khalifa, OBL’s brother-in-law, during the period, before his death, that he ran the fish restaurant.

  21. DXer said

    GAO should obtain all documents relating to the questioning of Yazid Sufaat from the FBI.

    Just as law has been famously said to be an ass, science more than any other endeavor should value resort to the very best information.

    Rather than rely on the surmise and innuendo that was cobbled together to make up the FBI’s highly speculative “Ivins Theory,” the GAO needs to turn to direct evidence.

    For example, if you want to know what the laptop from that B3 shows, locate the laptop and do computer forensics on it.

    By analogy, after commending the O’Connor and Furneaux books on the Oak Island mystery, I’ve just rediscovered a very weighty assessment that debunks the Oak Island legend. Although I’ve just started reading it, it seems to square well with the 19th Century news articles I’ve been reading.

    History, Hoax, and Hype
    The Oak Island Legend

  22. DXer said (blog)
    Man discovers he wasn’t kidnapped baby; FBI reopens 49-year-old …
    Fortune-2 hours ago


    In the case of a kidnapped baby, definitive evidence came to be available because of advances in technology.

    In Amerithrax, I believe Agent Lisi, lead investigator of Amerithrax, went on to head FBI Counterintelligence. (He recently became head of the FBI’s Boston Office.)

    The FBI’s course as a result may have been unalterably set.

    Let’s hope, if the FBI’s confidence in an Ivins theory is proved untenable, it is due to an explanation by a DIA “Red Team” or the GAO rather than proof offered by Dr. Zawahiri, Adnan El-Shukrijuman and Saif Adel.

    It is a lot easier to change one’s conclusion as an individual than as a bureaucracy. In the case of the kidnapped baby there were no bureaucratic obstacles to a reevaluation of the analysis.

    For example, it is Thursday and so I have a new theory relating to Oak Island treasure legend.

    I now think that John Montresor was the engineer behind the complex of tunnels at Oak Island in Nova Scotia. He at one time was the #1 engineer for the British during the Revolutionary War and the period before. I had wavered between British military and someone of French Hugeunots ancestry. Ironically, he was both. I think the treasure is not in the Money Pit or even the Cave-In — but under Smith’s Cove.

    I don’t know anything about Nova Scotia but am very eager to get to Halifax and the archives there.

    Douglas W. Marshall
    Research Perspectives on John Montresor: And the British Engineers in America ; 1755-1783

    John Montresor, 1736-1799, Engineer and Cartographer, by Francis L.D. Goodrich

    If anyone is on board for a road trip to Nova Scotia before school starts, let me know.

  23. DXer said

    There’s a story about Amerithrax in today’s Frederick News-Post with mention that GAO may issue its report sometime next year.

    I haven’t had a chance to read it as I have lacked wireless. Lew is going to be angry at the continued delay but I’m not at all.

    I’m much more interested in what comes out about Sufaat’s cooperation about “Mr. X.” (It’s still classified).

    There was no science that pointed to Dr. Ivins and so review of the science is not nearly as important as was made out to be.

    Instead, we want to hear from Sufaat, KSM, Al-Hawsawi etc. — and yes, even Adnan El-Shukrijumah and Ayman Zawahiri.

    Before he worked for Al Qaeda, Yazid Sufaat worked for a secret Malaysian biological weapons program that was abandoned years ago.

    Here’s a link to today’s article:

    “Scientists who worked with Ivins still question government’s methods,” July 29, 2013

    I just got back from walking Oak Island and am now enthralled by a different book about the hunt for the legendary treasure… by Furneaux.

    The 1972 book has a chapter on “Mr. X.” There are similarities between true crime and treasure hunting, to be sure.

    Although I am still hoping to engage a French translator with respect to life in the Halifax area during the period 1749-1756, my research in English texts will focus on Fort Halifax (40 miles from Oak Island).

    Although earlier in the week I had been swayed by Darcy O’Connor’s thorough book, it now is Mr. Furneaux’s book and theory of “Mr. X” that has captured my imagination.

    It involves a British civil engineer at Halifax who built drainage facilities. There was even a department that handled matters relating to hydrology. They would build similar drainage facilities to supply a fresh water well through secret channels — to ensure that a Fort on a river was not cut off from its supply. The well would be inside the fort but would secretly be fed by secret channels leading from the river.

    My new hypothesis is that the treasure is buried under Smith’s Cove — and the network of drains, rather than part of a flood trap, are what would drain Smith’s Cover after a coffer dam is built. .. so that the treasure could be accessed.

    At Oak Island, it would put the treasure vault 20-40 feet down rather than 200 feet. I may look into what is involved in obtaining a treasure trove license — if it is even at all feasible based on current ownership.

    Digging in the cove would be self-financed which historically is viewed as an advantage by the government.

    I walked Oak Island with Liam and Devon yesterday. They are experienced construction engineers, with most of their experience at beaches.

    One problem in pursuing the treasure hunt is that the Oak Island I walked with Liam and Devon yesterday was in New York rather than Nova Scotia — and Liam and Devon are 6.

    But they are totally on board for the treasure hunt.

    Guarding the treasure at our Oak Island (at Chenango Valley State Park) was a barred owl who allowed passersby to get very close.

    He explains the key to the puzzle: “who, who, who.”

  24. DXer said

    A former key investigator in Amerithrax, Vincent Lisi, will now be head of the Boston Field Office.

    By all accounts, Agent Lisi — former head of counterintelligence I believe — does not agree with me that Adnan Shukrijumah is the anthrax mailer. The FBI has said that its investigators think Bruce Ivins was the anthrax mailer.

    But as Agent Lisi gets up to speed on the Isabella Gardner art heist matter — and of course the FBI knows more than the public does in connection with any Philly mob connection — I hope Agent Lisi keeps an open mind as to the informant’s report that all but 2 of the Isabella Gardner paintings are ruined.

    I appreciate that the informant may be deemed unreliable. I just don’t see why Carmello Merlino would have reason to say that to the informant working in the garage if it were not true. And I have no idea why the informant would claim that Carmello said it if Carmello did not in fact say that. According to the same informant’s report, which I had uploaded but have since taken down, the two main paintings were in rough shape. The reason this may be worth crediting is that it may explain why they haven’t been turned in for the reward. Upon any return, a hue and cry might go up to prosecute what might be the greatest act of vandalism in history.

    It’s been suggested to me by a top journalist covering the matter that the New Jersey mob might have killed someone when he didn’t tell where the paintings were. But I don’t know anything about that. The mob connection I would have pursued — had I been noodling over it while vacationing in Maine — is the Robert Guarente contemporary that the village clerk from Robert Guarente’s home town told me about. And he lived there in Maine. They travelled in the same circles. But now I don’t recall his name or affiliations — and due to computer problems have lost all the materials.

    A failure in analysis commonly results in a failure to share/withhold information in an optimal manner. And it is sometimes hard to judge what sharing is optimal.

  25. DXer said

    How Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
    • Secret files show scale of Silicon Valley co-operation on Prism
    • encryption unlocked even before official launch
    • Skype worked to enable Prism collection of video calls
    • Company says it is legally compelled to comply


    I reported last month or so on a “Hacks and Hackers” meeting where a fellow new to town presented on the best encryption tools to use for different medium. It was agreed, for example, that Skype was unsecured. But my comment to him and the fellow sitting next to me was: isn’t it simpler to avoid having secrets? For example, at the meeting, people were being encouraged to use encryption to protect sources. They then were putting secrets into writing — using a medium for which NSA had defeated encryption. (I wasn’t paying attention to the details and so have no idea whether this Microsoft product was one that was recommended). When I raised the point to the presenter, who had done a very good job on his powerpoint presentation, he said that the companies would not allow that to happen because their business depended on their product being reliable. His point seems belied by the recent revelations about Microsoft.

    It was agreed at the presentation that there are no guarantees with any particular encryption. But why engage in reckless behavior at all? Why isn’t putting secrets into writing tantamount to talking about confidential matters in an elevator?

    In connection with his teaching encryption techniques for the purpose of journalism and protecting the sources, he gave the example of wanting to protect confidential Al Qaeda sources. Protect confidential Al Qaeda sources?

    Why would one want confidential Al Qaeda sources? In that context, the last impression you would want to create with law enforcement is that there are secrets that need keeping.

    Besides, as I’ve said previously, it would always be reckless not to assume the new guy in town teaching encryption techniques is a federal undercover.

    Ironically, NSA and Microsoft are learning that having the secret now just gave leverage to others. How many class action lawsuits will this spur against Microsoft? Will massive punitive damages be awarded against Microsoft in connection with the marketing of its encryption product?

    I once brought suit against AT&T for illegal wiretapping by a rogue Vermont state detective (it was illegal because there was no state statute). The trooper alleged to have committed the murder of the homeless man ultimately was fired and went to jail in a similar case. The civil suit for the unlawful wiretapping that I brought in Florida, however, was unsuccessful. The Eleventh Circuit affirmed the result. This case involving Microsoft seems to raise a similar issue but on a massive scale. (I won’t presume to prejudge how the legal principles would sort out).

    At the end of the day, how many secrets are worth putting into writing? Ken Alibek at least had the sense to always want to speak by telephone so as to at least put NSA to the burden of a transcript. It was in a phone call in 2003 that he told me he had always known Ali Al-Timimi was a hardliner — in one exchange he used the word “fanatic.” (He shared a suite with Al-Timimi and former USAMRIID Commander Charles Bailey ; I guess we don’t know enough yet for any of this to make sense).

    How often is keeping of secrets just counterproductive? For example, in the area of counterintellgence analysis, it seems more often than not just to lead to flawed conclusions resulting from the compartmentalization.

    Bureaucratically, keeping secrets is a way of inflating the importance of the government employee’s job. The withholding of information is at the center of many agency turf wars.

    For informants, claiming secrets is a way of keeping a paying gig. My wonderful graphics artist, an undercover, thought for at least a year or two I was speaking in code. He regularly would write emails in a coded shorthand. Any casual reference by me relating to a zoo picture or hobby suddenly was the subject of some mistakenly perceived hidden meaning. It sometimes made communication very difficult — but always entertaining.. His initial cover, when he first approached Meryl Nass in Maine and went to visit her was quite elaborate. It took him to February 2010 — nearly a year-and-a-half — to settle on an approach suited to me (helping me with graphics in proving that Al Qaeda was responsible). (An undercover needs to offer the target something of use to gain the target’s trust,) The FBI mistakenly thought that there was some convergence between what Meryl and I thought — beyond that Dr. Ivins was not Amerithrax processor/mailer. (The FBI would have thought this because in early August 2008, upon returning from a camping trip in the Pennsylvania wilds, I was privately emailing Meryl documents and ideas relating to an “Ivins Theory” ; I had always liked her because she called in 2003 or so on the subject of the “Hatfill Theory” — and her personal charm is undeniable.)

    In misperceiving codes, the FBI did the same thing by concocting a code in the double-lining of letters when Agent Darin Steele claimed without any basis that the “T” in NEXT was double-lined. (This is not a matter of opinion; there are forensic techniques that definitely determine that the “T” in NEXT was not double-lined). For FBI agents, imagining a nonexistent code perhaps offered a way of moving past what seems an endless, unsolvable case that might prove a career black hole.

    If law is an ass, the analysis and press in Amerithrax was an ass on LSD. For example, Ivins’ first counselor Judith McLean– relied upon so heavily by the government’s psychiatrist and the panel he created – writes in her 2009 book that in 2000 when she met with Ivins several times she was psychotic. She says she got her instructions each night from an alien who controlled her actions through a microchip implanted in her butt. She thought she was being pursued by murderous astral entities attached to her clients in her part-time counseling gig. Yet years later, in support of the FBI’s “Ivins Theory,” the psychiatrist never corrected or withdrew his report’s extensive reliance on the witness. Neither did journalist and book author WIllman.

    There are few truths not worth disclosing straight out — along with the uploaded documents in support. More importantly, there are few mistakes not worth correcting. If you can correct the errors in your thinking before your secret is out, so much the better.

    Credibility is far too precious to risk losing due to a kept secret or an uncorrected mistake. Ask any adulterer who upon being found out lost or hurt a cherished love.

    It’s never too late to learn an important lesson and get things right — that is, until it is.

    Let’s hope it is not too late and GAO makes an 11th hour effort to force production of the documents still being inappropriately withheld.

    As I have always said: there are no secrets.

  26. DXer said

    Both KSM’s relationship with Bin Laden’s closest protector and the compartmentalization of information is described in the report by the Pakistani report on the raid on Bin Laden’s hiding place. It is easy to see how women in that situation are so easily brainwashed.

    Bin Laden’s Life on the Run, Witnessed by Al Qaeda Child Bride

    by Michael Daly Jul 10, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

    Maryam further learned that her husband had practically grown up with Khalid Sheikh Muhammad in Kuwait and that the two were as close as brothers. That explained how her wedding dinner came to be in the home of the self-described mastermind of 9/11.

    What Maryam did not know was that the CIA was zeroing in on her husband as bin Laden’s link to the outside world. The agents at first only identified him by his jihad name, Ibrahim al-Kuwaiti. They now learned that his real name was Ibrahim Saeed Ahmed and managed to pinpoint him as he made one of his payphone calls. They then tracked him to the compound.

    The CIA still wanted to confirm bin Laden was there before risking a strike so deep inside Pakistan and so near its military academy. Bin Laden did not make it easier by never venturing beyond a small walled-in area adjacent to the main house and even then wearing a cowboy hat to thwart overhead surveillance.

  27. DXer said

    “Warning posters popping up in the subway featuring an individual wearing a gas mask are the work of pranksters sensationalizing an airflow study to be conducted by the NYPD and U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) this July, according to officials from the MTA.

    While the bills are not MTA-sanctioned flyers, information posted is largely true.”

  28. DXer said

    U.S. Postal Service Logging All Mail for Law Enforcement, by Ron Nixon
    New York Times

    The Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program was created after the anthrax attacks in late 2001 that killed five people, including two postal workers. Highly secret, it seeped into public view last month when the F.B.I. cited it in its investigation of ricin-laced letters sent to President Obama and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg. It enables the Postal Service to retrace the path of mail at the request of law enforcement. No one disputes that it is sweeping.

    “In the past, mail covers were used when you had a reason to suspect someone of a crime,” said Mark D. Rasch, who started a computer crimes unit in the fraud section of the criminal division of the Justice Department and worked on several fraud cases using mail covers. “Now it seems to be, ‘Let’s record everyone’s mail so in the future we might go back and see who you were communicating with.’ Essentially you’ve added mail covers on millions of Americans.”

    Bruce Schneier, a computer security expert and an author, said whether it was a postal worker taking down information or a computer taking images, the program was still an invasion of privacy.

    “Basically they are doing the same thing as the other programs, collecting the information on the outside of your mail, the metadata, if you will, of names, addresses, return addresses and postmark locations, which gives the government a pretty good map of your contacts, even if they aren’t reading the contents,” he said.

    But law enforcement officials said mail covers and the automatic mail tracking program are invaluable, even in an era of smartphones and e-mail.


    “It’s a treasure trove of information,” said James J. Wedick, a former F.B.I. agent who spent 34 years at the agency and who said he used mail covers in a number of investigations, including one that led to the prosecution of several elected officials in California on corruption charges. “Looking at just the outside of letters and other mail, I can see who you bank with, who you communicate with — all kinds of useful information that gives investigators leads that they can then follow up on with a subpoena.”


    For mail cover requests, law enforcement agencies submit a letter to the Postal Service, which can grant or deny a request without judicial review. Law enforcement officials say the Postal Service rarely denies a request. In other government surveillance programs, like wiretaps, a federal judge must sign off on the requests.


    Law enforcement officials need warrants to open the mail, although President George W. Bush asserted in a signing statement in 2007 that the federal government had the authority to open mail without warrants in emergencies or in foreign intelligence cases.


    Court challenges to mail covers have generally failed because judges have ruled that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for information contained on the outside of a letter. Officials in both the Bush and Obama administrations, in fact, have used the mail-cover court rulings to justify the N.S.A.’s surveillance programs, saying the electronic monitoring amounts to the same thing as a mail cover. Congress briefly conducted hearings on mail cover programs in 1976, but has not revisited the issue.


    A spokeswoman for the F.B.I. in Buffalo declined to comment.

    The program is especially active and closely monitored here in Syracuse. Since 1997, there have been hoax letters — and this system permits authorities to know where a letter originated.

    But my postal carrier Tony and I worked out a deal.

    I promised to be the photographer for his softball team that played the women who played during WW II (ala “A League of Their Own”). In exchange, he promised not to tell my wife that each day i throw out a lot of junk mail making sales pitches to my wife before it reaches her.

    When his supervisor started pressing him to record all the mail, including the junk mail, I had to up the pressure. I threatened to turn him in for dropping a rubber band on the road. I initially thought it was the newspaper fellow but then finally realized the (very cheap) rubber band was always found right where Tony parked his truck..

    I then mounted a motion activated camera at the spot and got definitive proof.

    This program is bound to be challenged in court in a class action. What is the cost of the program? It seems a very impressive technological feat that would have been extremely expensive. Who manufactures the equipment?

    Just as we couldn’t afford to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, I’m growing increasingly concerned that the greatest national security threat is not some momma’s boy named Adnan, but our reckless spending.

  29. DXer said

    Terror suspect Halimah may have fled country
    2 July 2013

  30. DXer said

    Two folks at the public library cafe today with me were discussing the Snowden matter and the issue of disclosing classified information.

    The woman, with whom I had been discussing the bold flavor of DARK MAGIC coffee, was commenting to her friend that it violated the law to reveal an undercover. (The issue is superfluous to the Snowden matter as he already faces life in prison; in any event, neither Greenwald nor Snowden have indicated that they planned to do that).

    The man, who mentioned that he had a top secret crypto clearance, did not understand that there is a cause of action for interception of communications if not in accord with the Fourth Amendment — made actionable under Section 1983 in a civil rights action.

    He said “where’s the damage?” Violation of constitutional rights involves cognizable damages and depending on the circumstances involves punitive damages. For example, in the Second Circuit, consider the class action lawsuit in which the Connecticut state troopers used to tape the calls defendants made to their counsel from the conference room without any sort of notice.

    Now on the question of disclosing undercovers, although I have not researched the issue, I suppose it depends on whether they are CIA or FBI. If they are CIA, it is not lawful for them to be operating in the US. So anyone operating undercover in the US is not subject to that law. At the least, the person disclosing their identity had a right to presume that they were FBI and not CIA.

    If they are CIA subcontractors working for Battelle (Battelle subcontracts with the CIA for intelligence analysis relating to bioterrorism), I believe they would be acting illegally or at least would not be subject to that law.

    It’s a little annoying that the FBI both screws up the analysis of Amerithrax and then gets indignant just because the guy who refills their watercooler is my drinking buddy. (Do they really not know that Poland Springs gets its water from a well in a parking lot?; that’s a matter of open source intelligence.)

    And do they really not know that the hot dog vendor outside is an avid photographer?

    Most intelligence is open source — for example, the documents that proved critical related to the rabbits. The DOJ and FBI withheld them from production and nowhere disclosed Dr. Ivins’ work with the rabbits. The documents were “open source” once obtained under FOIA from USAMRIID.

    When Richard Clarke said that most intelligence was open source, he didn’t say you didn’t sometimes have to work hard for it.

    The best approach to these sorts of fascinating issues — which understandably involve sensitivities given they relate to people’s good faith pursuit of their livelihoods — is simply to remain dispassionate and remember who the bad guys are.

    The bad guys who still need to be neutralized are Ayman Zawahiri and Adnan El-Shukrijumah.

    Beyond that, we can all root for the home team and make it a point to avoid locker room brawls or finger-pointing.

    At the end of the day, I don’t think anyone is going to fault the FBI for not being able to catch Adnan El-Shukrijumah. He may be a momma’s boy but he was already on the move prior to 9/11.

    On Wednesday, I met with a hacker (at an Innovation Trail networking event) who is helping Nick in NYC to set up a server that uses encryption end-to-end. Nick is the one who challenged the first NSL letter. I told the fellow that it will be interesting to see what litigation gets filed over Snowden’s revelations.

    The “hacker” had just moved from NYC and at a previous “Hacks and Hackers” meeting was advising local hackers on how to use cryptology for all the different mediums.

    I told him I was amazed that any one who felt a need to keep a secrets would trust a stranger new to town on what tools to use. (Encryption tools apparently vary with the many mediums).

    The first rule of security — even before you consider encryption tools — is that the guy new to town should be assumed to be a federal undercover.

    Numerous case studies are a matter of public record.

    It is far simpler just not to have secrets and urge that your public library carry the boy scout merit badge books.

    Then you can confidently and righteously point out that an “Ivins Theory” is mistaken.

    And urge that you are either part of the problem or you are part of the solution —

    and that it is never too late to get things right … until it is.

    • DXer said

      Could Glenn Greenwald go to jail? The law is alarmingly murky

      By Timothy B. Lee, Published: June 26, 2013

      “To the extent that you have aided and abetted Snowden, even in his current movements, why shouldn’t you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime,” asked David Gregory on Meet the Press this weekend.

      Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who over the last three weeks has broken a series of major stories about National Security Agency spying, called it “pretty extraordinary that anybody who would call themselves a journalist would publicly muse about whether or not other journalists should be charged with felonies.”

      Put aside the “should.” The more chilling question, in certain ways, is the “could.” The law is surprisingly murky on whether someone in Greenwald’s position could be prosecuted. It’s possible that, under certain circumstances, journalists could face jail time for doing investigative journalism.

    • DXer said

      As an example of the uncertainties of late, consider the analysts on leave from the CIA and embedded with the NYPD. I’ve always been indebted to a hockey loving NYPD counterintelligence analyst who in Fall 2001 did a data dump so as to avoid a failure to connect dots such as happened leading up to 911.

      I’ve seen what Jeffrey Taylor. Ken Kohl and Rachel Lieber’s “Ivins Theory” and believe they were mistaken.

      I have to believe that ( former CIA top analyst ) David Cohen of NYPD Intelligence can do a lot better.

      Anthrax is specifically mentioned in this article today about the CIA’s IG report.

      If judged by Amerithrax, New York City should be damn glad they have NYPD Intelligence keeping the city safe.

      C.I.A. Report Finds Concerns With Ties to New York Police
      Published: June 26, 2013

      WASHINGTON — Four Central Intelligence Agency officers were embedded with the New York Police Department in the decade after Sept. 11, 2001, including one official who helped conduct surveillance operations in the United States, according to a newly disclosed C.I.A. inspector general’s report.

      That officer believed there were “no limitations” on his activities, the report said, because he was on an unpaid leave of absence, and thus exempt from the prohibition against domestic spying by members of the C.I.A.

      Another embedded C.I.A. analyst — who was on its payroll — said he was given “unfiltered” police reports that included information unrelated to foreign intelligence, the C.I.A. report said.

      The once-classified review, completed by the C.I.A. inspector general in December 2011, found that the four agency analysts — more than had previously been known — were assigned at various times to “provide direct assistance” to the local police. The report also raised a series of concerns about the relationship between the two organizations.

      The C.I.A. inspector general, David B. Buckley, found that the collaboration was fraught with “irregular personnel practices,” that it lacked “formal documentation in some important instances,” and that “there was inadequate direction and control” by agency supervisors.

      “While negative public perception is to be expected from the revelation of the agency’s close and direct collaboration with any local domestic police department, a perception that the agency has exceeded its authorities diminishes the trust placed in the organization,” Mr. Buckley wrote in a cover memo to David H. Petraeus, then the C.I.A. director.

      The declassification of the executive summary, in response to a Freedom of Information Act suit, comes at a time of intense interest in domestic spying after leaks by a former contractor for the National Security Agency.

      It also comes amid lawsuits against the Police Department alleging unconstitutional surveillance of Muslim communities and mosques in New Jersey and New York. And a group of plaintiffs from a 1971 lawsuit over harassment of political groups by the Police Department’s so-called Red Squad has asked a judge to tighten guidelines stemming from that case on police investigations involving political or religious activity.

      Paul J. Browne, a police spokesman, said that the lawsuits were without merit. He also said that the inspector general had found nothing illegal and that the last embedded C.I.A. official left the police in 2012.

      “We’re proud of our relationship with C.I.A. and its training,” he said, saying it was partly responsible for the absence of casualties from a terror attack in New York in the years since Sept. 11 and the anthrax attacks. He added that the terrorists “keep coming and we keep pushing back.”

  31. DXer said

    As an illustration of how secrets relating to biological threats and programs are kept classified for decades), for your summer reading at the beach. see

    Pathogens for War: Biological Weapons, Canadian Life Scientists, and North American Biodefence [Hardcover]
    Donald H. Avery (Author)

    Book Description
    Publication Date: May 28, 2013
    Pathogens for War explores how Canada and its allies have attempted to deal with the threat of germ warfare, one of the most fearful weapons of mass destruction, since the Second World War. In addressing this subject, distinguished historian Donald Avery investigates the relationship between bioweapons, poison gas, and nuclear devices, as well as the connection between bioattacks and natural disease pandemics. Avery emphasizes the crucially important activities of Canadian biodefence scientists – beginning with Nobel Laureate Frederick Banting – at both the national level and through cooperative projects within the framework of an elaborate alliance system.

    Delving into history through a rich collection of declassified documents, Pathogens for War also devotes several chapters to the contemporary challenges of bioterrorism and disease pandemics from both national and international perspectives. As such, readers will not only learn about Canada’s secret involvement with biological warfare, but will also gain new insights into current debates about the peril of bioweapons – one of today’s greatest threats to world peace.

    Editorial Reviews
    “Pathogens for War is a high quality, complete historical survey of Canada’s involvement in biological weapons research from its emergence just before the Second World War to the present day. Very nicely contextualized to provide a sense of how Canadian biological weapons–related activities connected to contemporary events, it also provides fresh insight into the delicate balancing of relations with other nations such as the US and Great Britain. Donald Avery makes full use of an unprecedented access to previously classified material to bring out engagingly the enduring tensions of pursuing secret science in a democracy.”

    (Brian Balmer, Department of Science and Technology Studies, University College London)

    About the Author
    Donald Avery is an emeritus professor and adjunct research professor in the Department of History at Western University.
    Product Details

    • Hardcover: 448 pages
    • Publisher: University of Toronto Press, Scholarly Publishing Division (May 28, 2013)

    • DXer said

      Canadian biodefense loomed large in importance from the very beginning in light of the excellent work represented by its study “Risk Assessment of Anthrax Threat Letters,” Defense R&D Canada, Technical Report DRES-TR-2001-048, September 2001 (pp. 3-36).

      It has long been known that Dr. Ivins provided Canada virulent Ames.

      Source: Washington Post, November 30, 2001. Ames Strain Of Anthrax Limited to Few Labs
      By Steve Fainaru and Joby Warrick, Washington Post Staff Writers
      “In 1998, the Canadian government requested the Ames strain for its Defence Research Establishment Suffield, Ottawa’s counterpart to Fort Detrick. According to documents prepared by DRES scientists, Ames was one of 11 strains of Bacillus anthracis bacteria given to Canada by USAMRIID. Among the others was Vollum 1B, the strain used by the Pentagon in its biological weapons program in the 1950s and 1960s.
      The Canadians studied Ames in experiments that tested the effectiveness of antibiotics against various bacterial strains, documents showed.
      DRES chief scientist Kent Harding said the anthrax spores were closely guarded against theft. “We’re talking several locked doors and 24-7 monitoring,” he said.”

      The top CIA analyst in a report from Harvard says that the Canadian Jdey had been detained at the same time as Moussaoui but then released. The DOJ has refused to produce any documents corroborating the claim on the grounds of FOIA’s exemption for law enforcement/national security matters.

      The BOLO for Shukrijumah was issued at the same time as the BOLO for Jdey.

  32. DXer said

    Yazid’s earnest, beautiful and studious daughter retweets that “Folks from the American embassy have been following this #SOSMA case diligently and have been present on each mention and hearing date.”

    Soraya’s school has been cancelled recently because of air pollution. Soraya should reflect on what the hadiths say bearing on the use of aerosolized anthrax. The use of aerosolized anthrax would violate the hadiths by reason of killing innocents — such as schoolchildren.

    While I am not familiar with the religious doctrines Soraya and Yazid and Chomel follow, I expect that under her family’s belief system Allah would forgive someone’s transgressions — such as involved in the inadvertent death of the elderly Ottilie Lundgren — only if the transgression is acknowledged and forgiveness is forthrightly sought.

    If Yazid Sufaat is sneaky, it merely is an acknowledgement that in the eyes of Allah he has done wrong. As an example, when Ali Al-Timimi’s lawyer Edward McMahon said that Ali did not know that Anwar Awlaki, that was just a foolish mistake. The two fellow Falls Church imams had just spoken together in Canada and England in July and August 2001 alongside Dr. Dhafir. Some of Yazid’s claims are also transparently false.

    Certainly, in the next life, Yazid will be better off if he squarely addresses the issue and recognizes the deaths that resulted from the Fall 2001 are not fairly understood as the result of a defensive jihad.

    As for the “Folks from the embassy” Soraya mentions, they would be a low-level employees sent to chronicle events in a memo to superiors. The “Folks from the embassy” have proved ineffectual over time in not having arranged Yazid’s extradition under the existing extradition treaty.

    But without knowing what role the CIA has played behind the scenes, Yazid’s “trump card” to play — both in the eyes of Allah and in the watchful eyes of the CIA — is to stop withholding information relating to Dr. Ayman’s anthrax program. The same facts actually can be gleaned separately from documents, testing, Yazid’s former assistants, KSM, Hambali etc. If he doesn’t think that the Guantanamo detainees have not cooperated, he is an affable but naive rube.

    With such a loving and supportive family, there is no reason for Yazid to be anyone’s fool. HIs family should think for themselves and comprehend the best way for Yazid to be returned to them.

    Indeed, if they don’t know where Halimah is, maybe Yazid’s family should consider that Halimah is meeting with the “Folks with the embassy” making Sufaat’s cooperation less important.

    Any claim relating to Syria pales in comparison to Yazid Sufaat owning up to the details of Dr. Ayman’s anthrax program — for which he already has served time.

    The charges relating to Syria could be dropped if he proved a truth-teller rather than a sneaky liar.

    Everyone loves a truth-teller. No one likes a sneaky liar.

    UberFacts ‏@UberFacts22 Jun
    Someone who is attracted to other people’s intelligence is called a “sapiosexual.”
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

    Nader ﷽ ‏@BonsaiSky19 Jun
    You are your Google history search.
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

    Sin Yew ‏@S_Y_New17 Jun
    Folks from the American embassy have been following this #SOSMA case diligently and have been present on each mention and hearing date.
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

    Hida Nadirah ‏@HidaNadirah18 Jun
    #SOSMA appeal by da Prosecution ws allowed. We’ll file our Notice of Appeal 2 da Fed Court soon. Judges sd tt the High Court judge hs erred.
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

    MCCHR PusatRakyatLB ‏@PusatRakyatLB18 Jun
    #SOSMA CoA finds charge of inciting terrorism v Syrians fall within ambit of #Art149 Federal Constitution therefor #SOSMA may be used.
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

    Hida Nadirah ‏@HidaNadirah19 Jun
    Prosecution wins appeal against Yazid Sufaat’s acquittal over terror charge – Nation | The Star Online
    Retweeted by Soraya Yazid

  33. DXer said


    Critics say that you guys focused too much on USAMRIID [United States Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases] and didn’t focus enough on other places, like Battelle [Memorial Institute] and other places that had testing programs with dry anthrax. Explain how thorough — or not thorough, as the critics say — you were.

    [lead investigator Ed Montooth]

    The critics are free to throw stones at us — that comes with the nature of the business — but I can assure you that we were looking at people, and we were looking at them hard and close. …

    You just don’t start with one individual and say, “He had access, so he has to be someone we look at.” …

    No, we looked at phone records, we looked at credit card records, we interviewed family members, whatever. There wasn’t one set of protocols that was used on each individual. Everybody was unique on how you could investigate them and clear them from being a suspect.

    What were the important things that you were looking for? Ability to mail the material, or time to make the material? What were the specifics?

    … Who had the whole ability, the skills, access? Where were they during the windows of opportunities? What type of activity were they involved in leading up to it? What activity were they involved in afterward? We looked at people that had won government contracts, so we were looking to see, is there a financial issue related?

    I can’t sit here and tell you specifically, “We did 1 through 6 on every individual,” because sometimes that wasn’t the case. Sometimes you went 1 through 20 different steps to clear somebody.


    The approach of the lead investigator Ed Montooth, judging by his description, was to presume that Yazid did not have virulent Ames. Nowhere is there any indication that Agent Montooth knew what strain Yazid was working with — and nowhere is there any indication he knew Adnan El-Shukrijumah’s travels the week of the anthrax mailings that he told his mom he was coming to the US.

    It would have been simple for Agent Montooth to say in this filmed interview: We learned that Sufaat was working with virulent anthrax. He explained that to KSM in the Fall 2001. The strain was ____________. We also know that Adnan El-Shukrijumah (the operative working with 911 hijacker Mohammed Atta) was in __________ on the date of the mailing and so he could be excluded.

    What does Agent Montooth say today on these two issues? What strain had Al Qaeda had been using? Where was Adnan El-Shukrijumah on the dates of mailing?

    When the FBI interviewed Adnan’s mom, she told them that her son, [who was living with KSM at the time] called her and said (over her protests that he would be arrested) that he was coming to the US.

    Agent Montooth, this is direct evidence of travel in advance of the mailing by the Atta associate who was living with the 911 mastermind in Kandahar, where anthrax lab director Yazid Sufaat was also located. How were you able to exclude Adnan?

    Amerithrax is not nearly as complicated as the FBI prosecutors and investigators made it out to be.

  34. DXer said

    The prosecutor’s “Ivins Theory” was based on hiding the ball about Ivins’ work with 52 rabbits that first week in October 2001.

    This is somewhat ironic because dead animals were reportedly observed by satellite prior to Fall 2001 in Afghanistan. (The capabilities of the NRO’s “Misty” satellite are classified.).

    Al Qaeda’s experiments before 9/11 that involved killing animals are now confirmed by the documents — and there is even one film involving a dog (although that film did not involve anthrax).

    I asked Yazid Sufaat about those experiments before 9/11. But he declines to say what was involved.

  35. DXer said

    Washington Post Calls for New Anthrax Investigation
    October 24, 2011, 11:08 am ET by Sarah Moughty

    Filmed interview of AUSA Rachel Lieiber

    Very early on, of course, the attention is on Al Qaeda. … How quickly does our attention turn away from a foreign source for this?

    … It’s certainly true that much of the investigation tried to drill down on domestic and who had those capabilities.

    At the same time, there’s absolutely a concurrent investigation going on into the overseas aspects of this, the potential, because sure, the evidence may lead us one way, but you never want to discount other possible perpetrators. …

    I think it’s important also to remember that it wasn’t just a handful of scientists at the FBI lab or a handful of scientists at the FBI lab and a couple of folks up at Fort Detrick. This was an extraordinary collection of expertise, both foreign and domestic, from all across the spectrum of scientific disciplines that sat down and helped us try to figure out where could this have come from? And if it came from here, what does that mean in terms of narrowing the subset of the universe of potential suspects?

    • DXer said

      Rachel Lieber interview.

      So what’s the problem here, and how is it dealt with, the fact that it’s very possible the people that are helping you in the investigation are, in fact, possibly the guilty folk that were involved?

      Right, and that’s quite a dichotomy, to have the experts who were helping you also be the suspects. But I think that’s just the nature of this kind of event. It’s the nature of this kind of crime, that the people you have to rely on are the ones themselves capable. …

      That’s why we also had an extraordinary amount of FBI lab personnel basically embedded at Fort Detrick for a number of years going side-by-side and step-by-step with the scientists up there as things were processed, not necessarily to just keep an eye on them, but to also have this be a collaborative process. …

      Comment: So the FBI had people embedded at Ft. Detrick and they didn’t obtain the documents evidencing that Bruce Ivins, who was known to have the largest supply of Ames, gave virulent Ames to a former Zawahiri associate until Spring 2005?

      Who was embedded at Ft. Detrick who didn’t ask Bruce or Art or Pat for the documents. It was readily ascertainable from a google search of patents.

    • DXer said

      Rachel Lieber interview.

      … How are you brought into the case? …

      … I was added to the case in the spring of 2007 as we really began to focus on people who had access to 1029 and really began to push the investigation. …

      Question for AUSA Lieber:

      Did AUSA Lieber know that Dr. Ivins had given a sample of virulent Ames to a former Zawahiri associate? Did she interview Tarek?

      It was publicly ascertainable info for about a half decade. Most intelligence is open source.

      Did she interview Ali?

      Rachel was reprimanded when she went to the prison to interview the jihadi in prison whom she had been told by a superior was off limits because a deal had been cut. If you don’t know what Top Echelon is in connection with Whitey Bulger you really should read more. So AUSA Lieber is all right in my book. Indeed, I’m a big fan.

      But I have the documents and I have the audiotapes. I never had an important conversation I didn’t tape. I would even invite FBI agents to my kitchen for the specific purpose of filming them. Did Rachel speak the truth to the government investigators from GAO? I know every little last detail of what came into her office and so if she didn’t she may want to supplement her statement about her interview with the jihadi she visited in prison and what he said.

      FBI Director Mueller knows all of this because he was calling the shots.

    • DXer said

      Rachel Lieber interview:

      “If there had been an indictment brought, what would your role have been?”

      “My role sort of increased over time. When I first came on the case, I was coming onto somebody else’s massive global whodunit, multi-continent investigation. So I just really started to jump into dealing with witnesses and getting to know the science, which took some time to learn the science.

      Then over the course of the ensuing I would say six or eight months, I began to do more of a synthesis of the evidence, a synthesis of the investigation to try to figure out where else do we need to go, who else do we need to be looking at.

      I think by I would say January 2008, we were really, I think, beginning to focus pretty closely on Dr. [Bruce] Ivins. I think that’s fair to say. And at that point, I viewed my role as trying to piece together everything we had and take a hard look at what do we have, what can we use in court, do we have enough. If not, what else do we need to do to make sure that we’re correct in our assessment that this is the right person, that we ruled out all other suspects, that … we have evidence to prove that in court, that it could not have been this other person?

      So into the winter, spring and summer of 2008, that was really my role, was synthesizing evidence, writing a prosecution memo where I tried to pull all these pieces together … and get the indictment ready. …”

      Comment: So when you focused on the science, Rachel, instead of the massive global whodunit, did you take note that the FBI consulting scientists said the science only narrowed things from 700-100 to 200-300? (Increased of course by the infinite number to whom any of the 200-300, just at Ft. Detrick, could have given the Ames). Did you focus on the fact that key aspects of the science were exculpatory? Did Dr. Ivins’ suicide affect your confidence in an Ivins Theory given your mindfulness of your career prospects? Why did you withhold the rabbit documents? Why didn’t that constitute grievous prosecutorial misconduct? Was it your decision? Or was it the decision of Ken Kohl.

      Did Ken have leverage over you for unrelated personnel reasons for which the attorney giving assignments was asked to leave?

      Do you really think it is acceptable that the US should suffer the ongoing risk of the anthrax threat because of some office affair you had?

      I assure you it is morally unacceptable to give a moment’s further credence to an Ivins Theory that continues to this day only because of your withholding of the documents relating to the rabbits and your continued lack of forthrightness to the GAO folks.

      Call them up. Get it right. Because the documents proving your lies have already left the building.

    • DXer said

      Why did the attention turn to Dr. Ivins?

      There are a number of reasons. Again, I do want to stress that so much of this is an evolutionary process. The same thing would have happened in trial, where we would have had to explain this is how the evidence developed over the course of time. …

      We’d gotten to the point in the fall of 2007 where I had expert witnesses who would have been able to testify about the validity of the science, so that to me was a real marker.

      At that time, you take a very hard look at who had access to RMR-1029. And when you look at that, you think not only who had access, but who had access with the skill set to create these highly purified, highly concentrated spores.

      And then you go and take a look at the lab hours. Who had access, and who was alone? Because you don’t whip up a batch of dried anthrax spores in front of a whole lot of people. So we started taking a very hard look at access records. …

      That is I think one of the most compelling aspects of our investigation and certainly would have been a very early focus point of any trial, would have been taking a look at Dr. Ivins’ access to the material late at night, on weekends, when nobody else was around, relative to all the other investigators.

      And he stands alone. One of my first days working on the investigation in spring of 2007, one of the agents, Lawrence Alexander, who was one of the lead agents on the case, showed me basically a graphic of everyone’s lab access hours. When everyone else was in the lab between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. generally, or 7 [a.m.] and 3 [p.m.], he said, “Do you see anything different?” And it was just extraordinary when you see Dr. Ivins’ lab hours all late at night, on the weekends, when nobody else was there. The graphic itself told quite a story. So that was quite significant.

      Also significant was the fact that his lab hours spiked in August and then really September and October of 2001; never before and never after had he shown anything like that, those late-night and weekend lab access hours. That was extraordinary. …

      These are real, concrete things you can point to to show opportunity, which is significant.


      And, Rachel, whoever is responsible for withholding the documents showing why he was in the lab should be disbarred unless they come forward and set things right.

      Who was that? You? Or Ken? Or a non-lawyer.

      Do you really think that the issue is going to go away? If so, that’s uninformed. You simply don’t know who you are dealing with.

      Someone needs to explain to the GAO why the documents relating to Dr. Ivins work with the rabbits were withheld.

      Whoever told you that you could get away with pinning this on Bruce Ivins rather than Adnan El-Shukrijumah was wrong.

    • DXer said

      Rachel, did you really rely on a powerpoint on hours by someone whose experience was undercover drug buys in D.C. without studying every document from the lab notebooks and protocols etc. explaining why Dr. Ivins was in the lab those hours? Just based on the hours in 1412 vs. 1425, you should have realized that there is a reason for the saying “lies, damned lies and statistics.”

    • DXer said

      AUSA Lieber interview:

      We might argue it’s a long time ago. It’s hard for me to remember what happened last week. The lawyers and others point to the fact that there was a calendar of these animal experiments that were ongoing, that he had reason to be checking in with the animals. Maybe he stayed in longer than [usual]. There’s also the argument that if you look at other points in his career, he tended to work late at night or odd hours. The response to that?

      … We can demonstrate through records over the course of a five-year period, never once before and never once after did he spend anywhere near the amount of time in the lab. And honestly, people say, “Bruce is in the lab all the time at night.” Well, if you actually take a look at the lab access records, that’s not true. He may have said that he was, he may have been in his office late at night sometimes, but he was never actually in the lab for anywhere near the number of hours.

      For example, from January through August of 2001, I think he spent something like eight or 10 hours in the lab alone at nights or on weekends. And then you start looking at mid-August, and he’s spending 20, 30 hours during the week overtime in the lab. And again, in the ramp-up to each of the two mailings, it’s extraordinary, the number of hours that he spent — three hours at a time, four hours at a time, 9:00 to midnight, that sort of thing.

      And to the point some people suggest that he did have good reason to be in there, that there were animal challenges going on and somebody has to go in and evaluate the animals to see how they’re doing in response to their vaccinations and being exposed to anthrax, if you look at his lab notebooks, there absolutely are notations here and there about his going in to check on certain animals. And it would justify 20, 30 minutes in the lab, maybe an hour at most. But he’s spending something like two hours and 45 minutes, two hours and 45 minutes, two hours and 45 minutes, each night leading up to the mailings.

      And again, that’s the beauty of physical evidence and laboratory notebooks. It’s a great thing about scientists: They record everything. …

      Comment: AUSA Lieber apparently was unaware that beginning in January 2002, a two-person rule was implemented that prohibited hours in the lab alone at night. This was a major oversight and led to her flawed interpretation of the significance of the hours.

      • DXer said

        AUSA Lieber says:

        “But he’s spending something like two hours and 45 minutes, two hours and 45 minutes, two hours and 45 minutes”. AUSA Lieber was aware of the 302 statement by Ivins assistant Mara who explained that taking care of animals on nights and weekends was a one person job that would take a couple of hours. I have uploaded the protocols and other documents relating to that research. The depositions of Ivins’ assistants was then shredded which in legal jargon constitutes “spoliation.”

    • DXer said

      Another thing that Claire Fraser-Liggett told us, just to follow up on finding the evidence, even if you don’t find the spores in the equipment, you would have DNA evidence. And what she said to us was, “I don’t know how you don’t find some DNA evidence in the end in equipment, if that’s where it was done.”

      By the time that the scientific side of the investigation, Dr. Liggett’s extraordinary contributions to this investigation, by the time those were coming online, and the results were coming in that were pointing to USAMRIID in general, and maybe 1029, as that’s all developing, we’re now talking 2003, 2004, 2005, and looking for what kind of equipment and that sort of thing.

      So by the time that we could even identify a piece of equipment to be swabbed, years had gone by. Those things had been cleaned numerous times. So this notion that someone could have stuck a Q-Tip up in there and found a scrap of 1029 DNA, I think is, with all due respect, it’s inconsistent with the reality of what was actually happening. …

      People lose sight of the timeline. And it isn’t CSI. We don’t have 52 minutes plus commercials to solve this whodunit. It is a timeline that’s many, many years. …


      And yet Rachel overlooks the documentation showing that the plan was to wipe down and decontaminate the Al Qaeda anthrax labs. And so while she dismisses the fact that the equipment allegedly used by Dr. Ivins had no spores, she does not apply the same approach to the positive findings for Ames that WERE found in Afghanistan. See David Relman’s in SCIENCE, “Have We Met The Enemy?”

      Did Rachel have a Top Secret clearance?

    • DXer said

      The issue of the late nights in the lab, … there is documentation about what he was doing in those hours. It wasn’t unusual for him to work late normally, not always in the B-3, but in his offices themselves. And here he has four experiments going on at this point. That brings into question how suspicious the late-night activity really was. Your comment on that?

      … There are no notebook records that suggest that there is any reason why Dr. Ivins had a scientific reason to be in the lab for those lengthy late-night hours, solo in the lab, leading up to the first mailings. So take that whole piece out of it.

      Comment: Rachel is mistaken. Is it that the documents were kept from her? Or did she keep them from the public. The assertions in the Amerithrax Investigative Summary are patently false and unsupported by any citation. The Amerithrax Investigative Summary, presumably written by her, makes no mention whatsoever of the rabbit study.

      What sort of standard does the DOJ follow that has such an important memo written without the benefit of citation to sources?

  36. DXer said

    In Amerithrax, I don’t represent a whistleblower as such.

    Think of me channeling the NSA, CIA and the DOJ — the iC has been trying to clean up the mess that the DOJ/FBI Daniel, Ken, Rachel and Ed left.

    The graphics artist was a federal undercover.

    My sources work for the NSA, CIA and DOJ.

    And the long-term adventure in advocacy, unfortunately, likely will prove convincing when Dr. Zawahiri launches a mass attack using anthrax.

    Think about it: How did I know about the meeting between KSM, Sufaat and Adnan? It still is classified information.

    • DXer said

      Lead prosecutor Daniel pled the Fifth Amendment in this case in connection with the hyped Hatfill stories that derailed Amerithrax for many years. He was the lead prosecutor.

      His daughter represented anthrax weapons suspect Ali Al-Timimi for free.

      If the public doesn’t understand and address conflict of interest principles, then there won’t be government accountability.

  37. Anonymous said

    President Barack Obama on Friday nominated James Comey, a former Justice Department official who helped oversee national surveillance programs under President George W. Bush, as the director of the FBI.
    If the Senate confirms his nomination, Comey would replace Robert Mueller who has held the FBI director’s post since the week before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
    Comey, 52, served as deputy attorney general from 2003 to 2005, and made headlines when it was revealed he went to dramatic efforts to prevent the reauthorization of a controversial warrantless eavesdropping program. One night in March of 2004, Comey raced to the bedside of Attorney General John Ashcroft as two senior Bush officials were en route there in the hopes of getting Ashcroft to approve the continuation of the program.
    Comey helped prevent the program’s re-authorization and later told Congress he felt like the Bush administration officials attempted to “take advantage of a very sick man.”
    His actions drew praise from Democrats and Republicans alike, and enjoys widely bipartisan support because of it. The White House has made a concerted effort to highlight Comey’s past GOP ties, saying that the president has reached across the aisle to choose the leader of a key agency in his administration amid roiling controversies about national security and electronic surveillance.
    Federal Election Commission reports show that Comey donated the maximum individual contribution, $5,000, to Obama’s opponent Mitt Romney last year.
    Before joining the Justice Department, Comey was known as a successful prosecutor. He initial got on the radar of the Bush White House after taking over the case of a 1996 terrorist bombing in Saudi Arabia that killed 19 U.S. troops. He successfully prosecuted 14 men after being put in charge of the stalled case.
    Most recently, Comey has worked in the private sector, serving as general counsel of defense contractor Lockheed Martin and later at investment firm Bridgewater Associates. Earlier this year he joined Columbia University’s law school as a senior research fellow and joined the board of international banking giant HSBC.

  38. DXer said


    Jun. 20, 2013 8:09pm Jason Howerton

    Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst and Bush-era NSA whistleblower, claimed Wednesday that the intelligence community has ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.

    He also made another stunning allegation. He says the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama back in 2004.

    “They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial,” Tice told Peter B. Collins on Boiling Frog Post News.

    He went on: “But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people.”

    Then Tice dropped the bombshell about Obama.

    “Here’s the big one,” he said. “[T]his was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”


    Elliot, did the NSA learn of your indiscretions with that young lady through NSA wiretapping?

    I know Elliot Spitzer from Law Review. He was my year. A hard worker, he ran for President of the Review. We knew then he was destined for great things given his financial wherewithal, work ethic, serious-minded purpose, and great wife. Later as governor of New York, however, he resigned when it found he wore his socks in having relations with a high-end call girl. Now I totally agree that it was unacceptable behavior for a top law enforcement official. The call girl worked at places at places run by the mob (and thus Elliot was made subject to possible leverage). But the question in my mind has always been: How did authorities learn of the indiscretion?

    Unfortunately, the FBI is allowed to withhold documents showing that the FBI “Ivins Theory” is crock because there is no effective government accountability. There is no transparency. In its pending review, the GAO was ineffective in seeking documents and allowed the FBI to withhold and delay production just as happened with the NAS.

    The GAO should report separately on the FBI’s document production and the GAO’s document requests. Given the scientific issues never narrowed things in an important way, the withholding of documents and information is far more important on the issue of government accountability.

  39. DXer said

    NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
    National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.
    by Declan McCullagh June 15, 2013 4:39 PM PDT


    I often commented to the FBI on this blog “There are no secrets.” Everything lead prosecutors Rachel and Ken and the FBI investigators commented in their texts and emails — whether upon Bruce’s suicide or before about other affairs — was captured and archived by NSA and available to be listened to by any analyst trying to figure out why Amerithrax was botched. It really was quite amazing that under all the circumstances they so often did not use encryption.

    Given the importance of Amerithrax to national security, it is foolish to think there are any secrets.

    The reason Rachel was reprimanded and the circumstances — and her superior’s role — are all known.

    Anyone should proceed with the understanding that anything you have ever written or said was archived and can be accessed.

    I’ve always made it a point never to have any secrets.

    If anyone wanted to know who mailed the Fall 2001 anthrax mailings, all they needed to do was ask.

    In 2013, moving forward, the bad guys alive and at large primarily include Dr. Ayman Zawhiri and Adnan El-Shukrijumah.

    It’s time to start pulling on the same oar.

  40. DXer said

    Glen Greenwald, before reporting Mr. Snowden’s claims, was an influential blogger at who would occasionally write on Amerithrax.

    If it is hard to find his pieces it is because a google picks up all the people so often quoting him. I believe Glen is an attorney with training in Constitutional law.

    What can Mr. Greenwald tell us about the NSA’s wiretapping relating to Amerithrax post-February 2010?

    He may not know the reason why particular intercepts were monitored in real time but this blog could provide the context.

    The NSA and CIA is quick to point out the example of Zazi. El-Shukrijumah convinced Zazi to go back to the US for the purpose of a bombing. In discussing details of those intercepts, he would merely be picking up the thread of the public example emphasized by the CIA and NSA.

    Here is one of his pieces on Amerithrax:

    WEDNESDAY, APR 21, 2010 07:22 AM EDT
    Unlearned lessons from the Steven Hatfill case
    The Government’s behavior in the anthrax investigation highlights the dangers of untested, unproven accusations


    Andrew Sullivan rightly recommends this new Atlantic article by David Freed, which details how the FBI and a mindless, stenographic American media combined to destroy the life of Steven Hatfill. Hatfill is the former U.S. Government scientist who for years was publicly depicted as the anthrax attacker and subjected to Government investigations so invasive and relentless that they forced him into almost total seclusion, paralysis and mental instability, only to have the Government years later (in 2008) acknowledge that he had nothing to do with those attacks and to pay him $5.8 million to settle the lawsuit he brought. There are two crucial lessons that ought to be learned from this horrible — though far-from-rare — travesty:

    (1) It requires an extreme level of irrationality to read what happened to Hatfill and simultaneously to have faith that the “real anthrax attacker” has now been identified as a result of the FBI’s wholly untested and uninvestigated case against Bruce Ivins. The parallels are so overwhelming as to be self-evident.

    Just as was true for the case against Hatfill, the FBI’s case against Ivins is riddled with scientific and evidentiary holes. Much of the public case against Ivins, as was true for Hatfill, was made by subservient establishment reporters mindlessly passing on dubious claims leaked by their anonymous government sources. So unconvincing is the case against Ivins that even the most establishment, government-trusting voices — including keymembers of Congress, leading scientific journals and biological weapons experts, and the editorial pages of The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall St. Journal — have all expressed serious doubts over the FBI’s case and have called for further, independent investigations. ****

  41. DXer said

    There is a Decision Points Theatre in President Bush’s library where participants are asked questions which force them to make the same decisions he made on Iraq. If you disagree, a video message from President Bush comes on.

    Questions not asked include what would you do with the following 2001 CIA reports:

    April 20 — “Bin Laden Planning Multiple Operations”;

    May 3 — “Bin Laden Public Profile May Presage Attack”;

    May 26— “Bin Laden Network’s Plans Advancing;

    June 23— “Bin Laden Attacks May Be Imminent”;

    June 30— “Bin Laden Threats Are Real”;

    July 2— “Planning for bin Laden Attacks Continues, Despite Delays”;

    July 13 — “Bin Laden Plans Delayed But Not Abandoned;

    August 3 — “Threat of Impending al-Qaida Attack to Continue Indefinitely”

    Aug. 6 (hand-delivered to Crawford, Texas) — “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US: FBI information indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.”

    Comment: Adnan El-Shukrijumah had been tasked with casing NYC targets in 2001. He spent a week in the NYC area, a week in the DC area and a week in Montreal.

    This is the Summer 2001 Briefing That President Bush Received On Bin Laden and Planes But The February 2001 PDB On Bin Laden And Anthrax That President Bush Received From The CIA Is Still Classified

    DXer says: Adnan El-Shukrijumah is the anthrax mailer … on or about 9/13/2001, he phoned from KSM’s house to tell his mom he was coming to the US

  42. DXer said

    “Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector. Anywhere,” Snowden said. “I, sitting at my desk, had the authority [technical ability within the program] to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if I had a personal e-mail.”

    Read more:

    Comment: As I have often said on this blog, there are no secrets. For example, nothing crossed AUSA Lieber’s transom that was not readily knowable. FBI and CIA Investigators who continue to hold back from the GAO are being foolish. These investigators and analysts and prosecutors did not encrypt their personal emails and chat, which is very foolish if they were going to say things inconsistent with their public statements. And they did on a massive scale.

    As the FBI Agent in “Now You See Me” illustrates, not even the most grizzled and world weary FBI Agents are as confused as US Attorney Taylor’s mistaken claims at his early August 2008 conference unintentionally made them out to be.

  43. DXer said

    My Congressman, who now lives a couple streets over from me, is a member of the Subcommittee on Intelligence, Emerging Threats and Capabilities on the House Committee on Armed Services.

    At a recent talk at the local Dewitt library, the Congressman was exceedingly generous and gracious to my close relative, two doors down from me.

    Some years ago, at a meeting for an Obama organizing group where the Congressman spoke, I gave Congressman Maffei’s wife a copy of some of the federal undercover’s graphics that are more fully found here.

    Congressman Maffei should ask himself and his colleagues on the Committee this question:

    What can the CIA tell them about what KSM, Yazid Sufaat and Adnan El-Shukrijumah discussed at the meeting? The details are contained in a Guantanamo document that is still SECRET. Dan shouldn’t be hearing of what was said for the first time over produce at the best little grocery store in America.

    If he does, the CIA is going to find it awkward to explain why Congress was not in the loop.

    Rep. Maffei should then make sure that Rep. Holt knows if he has the necessary clearance.

    I understand that the FBI’s challenge has never been easy given that Adnan El-Shukrijumah was operational and on the move prior to 9/11.

    They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

    But the relevant Congressional Committees should at least ask to be briefed.

    • DXer said

      Lawrence O’Donnell interviewed Glenn Greenwald about Snowden’s claims. Someone is explaining that Zazi (El-Shukrijumah’s recruit) was found only because of this sort of technology.

      Congressman Maffei of the Subcommittee on Intelligence, Emerging Threats and Capabilities on the House Committee on Armed Services this summer will be walking the same stream as I do — his house two very short blocks away as the crow flies. The Congressman will not need a warrant or a sneak peek to read my EA Scrabble Chat to know who mailed the Fall 2001 anthrax letters.

      Anne Marie Buerkle would not stand a chance against the likable incumbent educated at Columbia, Brown and Harvard. Because of some kind words to an elderly woman at the local public library, he is my new favorite politician. He has a BA in history from Brown, an MS in journalism from the Columbia School of Journalism, and an MPP from Harvard. Press Secretary for Bill Bradlee and Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Dan has been the public face of some very esteemed politicians. But his own mug is going to be known for good things for a long time.

  44. DXer said

    I see today that the blogger who thinks a First Grader has written:

    “But, my point is that DXer appears to be blatantly and unabashedly communicating with a known al Qaeda terrorist.”

    “Known Al Qaeda terrorist”? In 2008, when he was released, a high Malaysian official said he was rehabilitated. I mean, who knew he was going to be alleged to be a member of an Al Qaeda branch and plotting acts of terror?

    If Ed would prefer I interview the imaginary First Grader he suspects, I would note that the First Grader does not exist and so there was no one to interview. I did call the Wisconsin fellow he argued was guilty for the decade. I confirmed for Ed that he was being unjustly accused. Ed was upset I had called him and shown that his theory was specious and unfounded. (The FBI also had said that the theory was “baloney” but Ed thought the FBI Director was lying).

    Calling for an interview is called research and inquiry. Getting one’s facts right. Ed should try it sometime instead of fantasizing — for reasons known only to him — about some impressionable young boy who can be made to do despicable things by an evil man.

    Ed writes:

    “But, when it was in the news the other day that Verizon was turning over to the National Security Agency (NSA) information about local calls, I recalled that my web site logs show that all of DXer’s visits to my web site come from a verizon.netaccount. That made me wonder what kind of phone calls DXer has been making. If he talks on the phone (or exchanges text messages) with a known al Qaeda terrorist, does he realize that he may be communicating with an FBI or CIA agent pretending to be Yazid Sufaat? And, does Yazid Sufaat assume that DXer is a CIA agent?”

    Hehe. A federal undercover did do my graphics for a couple of years, spending many many hundreds of hours, if not easily two or three thousand.

    But he and I are tight. We discussed his undercover role when we first met. From what I’m told, the IC, unlike Ed, has long known that Amerithrax was botched and has been trying to figure out how things got so off track. He’s a personal hero of mine. As a fellow nature lover and paddler, last night I sent him a picture of a very cool fox I had a close encounter with yesterday when I went to my kayak.

    In the movie “Unstoppable,” I’m the Denzel character and he’s my very handsome sidekick.

    According to an internal report the CIA and FBI did wonder whether I was communicating coded messages through EA Scrabble.

    As for whether Yazid thinks I’m CIA, I have no idea. (I think FBI Agents and CIA analysts have really cool jobs and so it would not be out of the question; I did live in Arlington VA for 15 years).

    Yazid did mention it was suspicious that I otherwise had no Facebook activity. (I explained I had signed up to submit pictures of carved pineapples to a “PSYCH” (the tv show) contest (at Halloween).

    Years ago, the oft-quoted Milton L. in 2002 called and asked if I asked whether I worked for the Mossad — asking how I knew things before they happened. (I think some people mistakenly think I’m a Jewish because they are mistaken about the origin of the German name). (I told him I only knew about them 2 minutes after they were reported on google or some other electronic database.).

    Given that KSM explained to the CIA in March 2003 that Yazid was working with virulent anthrax, I’ve always pointed out to Milton and other serious researchers like Rene that they were mistaken in their unsupported claims as to whether Al Qaeda had a virulent strain. See generally 2005 WMD Commission Report. See also David Relman’s article in SCIENCE.

    As a general matter, early on I found that commentators in December 2001 (when I first started paying attention to the matter) were tending to underestimate the highly educated Dr. Zawahiri. I was greatly impressed by the September 2002 New Yorker profile of Dr. Ayman Zawahiri by Lawrence Wright. He is a journalist who knows how to do intensive research in learning about his subject. Obtaining virulent anthrax was a relatively minor task for someone as determined and capable as Dr. Ayman at implementing cell security principles that he had written about. (see his book in Arabic posted online about spying). Security at labs was very lax; vetting was nearly non-existent.

    I know people in common in Dr. Ayman and so did have some some insights — for example, I know “Tawfiq” Hamid who was recruited by Dr. Ayman from Cairo Medical. (He uses an alias for his first name for security reasons.) “Tawfiq” withdrew from the group the jihadist group when his colleagues asked him to bury a security officer near the mosque. He has written the book INSIDE JIHAD which I recommend.

    “Tawfiq” consults for the CIA which is why I called him. I figured he might open up about his friend that Bruce Ivins gave virulent Ames and Patricia Fellows provided technical assistance.

    The founder of the CIA used to explain that the key to good intelligence is to make contact and ask respectful questions. That along with a passion for obtaining documentary evidence is the key to good analysis. Only uninformed internet posters content themselves with highly selective and misleadingly cast arguments made by some government employees where the employees feel bad about some subject’s suicide. Those of us from inside the beltway know all about the CYA mentality that pervades government. See Noah Schactman’s excellent “Wired” article in which he interviewed investigators who shared this same concern that there was a rush to judgment fueled by the suicide.

    People are very responsive to respectful inquiry. People have a natural desire to communicate and express themselves. To have the history correctly written. At the very least, you often glean a lot from their attempts at misdirection. For example, I believe (although it was not to me) Yazid falsely denied to others not being at the January 2000 summit.

    Ed writes:

    “DXer clearly feels that he can do a much better job than the FBI of figuring out who actually sent the anthrax letters of 2001. He doesn’t seem to accept any of the evidence against Bruce Ivins found by the FBI and used by the Department of Justice.”

    I have linked a couple dozen of scientists and experts who also think the FBI’s “Ivins Theory” is mistaken. There is a wide consensus among outside commentators — even FBI scientists and NAS panel members — that the case is “unsolved.” I have pointed out that I am in very esteemed and learned company. There is an ongoing GAO review. (Hint: the GAO is not going to conclude that a First Grader wrote the letters).
    Ed writes:

    “I guess my point in all this is: When you read that the NSA is tracking telephone calls between Americans and known terrorists, you shouldn’t assume that no American you know would be communicating with known terrorists.”

    Ed is more comfortable with publishing fake nude celebrity pictures as he did for the 10 years prior — he enjoyed arguing with 13 year-olds about whether they were the real boobs of the celebrity. I tried to explain to Ed that they really were Sophia Loren’s boobs. (Sophia’s lawyer bought 76 lawsuits against people doing what Ed did for 10 years; for understandable reasons, suit was not brought against Ed although he was doing the same thing and maintaining the archive for eager 13-year-olds).

    If Ed doesn’t understand that the Washington Post and other leading journalists have attempted to score interviews with Al Qaeda anthrax lab scientists then he is just uninformed. For example, the iSI had initially agreed to let Rauf Ahmad be interviewed by a correspondent in Pakistan but then backpedaled. (I didn’t ask and just contacted Rauf directly).

    The Malaysian periodical that scored the filmed interviews with Yazid accomplished a journalist coup. The journalists deserve a major award. I have linked the interviews. That’s what journaiism and blogging, at its best, is all about.

    I recently attended a Newhouse seminar at a local tavern that involved a powerpoint on the importance that journalists and bloggers encrypt conversations with sources. I ventured to the computer whiz sitting next to me that it was easiest just not to have any secrets — to never do anything that you wouldn’t want your mom and the FBI to know about.

    It was long-time blogger Glenn Greenwald who recently broke the story about the Verizon intercepts of metadata. I don’t even see it as a big story.

    Indeed, if you have known about the NSA’s ECHELON program (from decades ago) where all email, phone and fax throughout Europe is sucked up and filtered through national dictionaries, it is a bit odd and hypercritical that anyone would be so surprised that after 911 it would also even be done with regard to content in the US. Under the Fourth Amendment, there is a big difference between content and metadata.

    Having no secrets makes commenting on such matters as a blogger a simple matter. As Richard Clarke has said, most intelligence is open source. It is a matter of “connecting the dots.”

    For example, the interviews of BIn Laden in the late 1990s were also major coups. The incoming Bush Administration might have held a Principals meeting, as Richard Clarke urged, if they had studied those published interviews.

    For someone good at researching, making contact and asking respectful questions is the key to learning something.

    The best factual investigators are unstoppable.

  45. DXer said

    Yazid saw Moussaoui off to the Karachi airport and Moussaoui took a February 8, 2001 flight to Norman, Oklahoma. Zacarias was determined to learn to fly the big planes like the others even though Yazid says he doesn’t think Zacarias, although an earnest fellow, had the natural talent.

    Adnan El-Shukrijumah, also took flight lessons at Norman. Adnan reportedly stayed with Menepta, whose credit card investigators say was used to buy chemicals for the WTC 1993 bombing. (Clearly, authorities did not think Mr. Menepta responsible or they would have charged him; some agent just told Mr. Menepta that in one interview that they knew about the billing to the credit card).

    Mr. Menepta went from Norman to Minneapolis to bail out Al-Attas, the jihad wanabe who had taken Moussaoui to Minneapolis and been detained.

    Did Yazid give the same fond farewell to Adnan that he gave to Moussaoui? He has given an interview to French television about Moussaoui which Lew has linked.

    The tone of that interview is the best guide to his relationship with Moussaoui rather than my understanding.

    Yazid, if you have the chance, can you also describe your relationship with Adnan? Did it have the same warmth, right or wrongly, as I perceive in your relationship with Moussaoui?

    Like Dr. Ayman, Adnan could be termperamental and prickly. For example, according to KSM, Adnan did not get along with Padilla. And I know that Adnan once bit his little sister when she didn’t pick up the house. So I have no sense as to whether Adnan is charming as Yazid. Yazid sets a high standard indeed for affability.

    Now I’ve read somewhere that Yazid was in charge of scouting out churches in Medan to blow them up — most of the explosions failed but they were time to go up all at once. But many people died in the church explosions perpetrated by Yazid’s group.

    I simply have no idea how one could glean moral justification for attacking church-goers — or mosques for that matter.

    These folks committing these wanton murders need to reorient themselves morally and leave the guidance to scholars more skilled in interpreting old texts. It’s worth saying again given what is at stake: People like Zawahiri, Hambali, KSM etc. have forfeited their souls because of their murder of innocents. They should have consulted with more capable scholars.

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