CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* there is apparently no evidence to support the arrest of Paul Curtis in the recent Ricin mailing … just as there is no evidence against Dr. Bruce Ivins in the 2001 anthrax case

Posted by Lew Weinstein on April 24, 2013

GAO, FBI, Ivins

Maybe it’s time to recollect that, although the FBI asserts Dr. Bruce Ivins was the sole perpetrator of the 2001 anthrax attacks, they have presented absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support that assertion, or even any evidence that Dr. Ivins was involved in the attacks at all. Specifically, there is …

          • no physical evidence of any kind linking Dr. Ivins to any aspect of the crime, other than that he had access to the anthrax (as did hundreds of other scientists)

          • no scientific evidence linking the attack anthrax to Dr. Ivins (as confirmed by an NAS review) 
          • no witnesses who ever suggested that Ivins was the culprit

We can only hope that the on-going but long-delayed GAO review of the FBI’s investigation will eventually be completed and will lead to an understanding, not only of the deficiencies of the FBI’s case against Dr. Ivins, but also the reasons the FBI has stuck for so long to such an untenable position.

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99 Responses to “* there is apparently no evidence to support the arrest of Paul Curtis in the recent Ricin mailing … just as there is no evidence against Dr. Bruce Ivins in the 2001 anthrax case”

  1. DXer said

    Does Paul Curtis face a time bar problem?

    Curtis seeks damages in ricin case
    by Jebb Johnston
    a month ago

    Read more: Daily Corinthian – Curtis seeks damages in ricin case
    http://www.dailycorinthian.com/view/full_story/27346473/article-Curtis-seeks-damages-in-ricin-case

    The Corinth man framed for sending ricin-laced letters to the president, a congressman and a Mississippi judge recently filed a new lawsuit seeking damages for the ordeal.

    The new suit filed in U.S. District Court by Paul Kevin Curtis seeks damages from the U.S. Government, including the FBI, Department of Justice, and Homeland Security, for violation of civil rights.

    While this suit generated new headlines in the provocative story of bad blood between two men, another suit filed in Alcorn County Circuit Court remains open. In 2013, he sued James Everett Dutschke, the Tupelo man who was eventually indicted for the crimes, seeking damages for defamation of character, intentional infliction of emotional distress and intentional interference with a business relationship. That case has seen no filings since 2014, according to court records.

  2. DXer said

    FANNIN COUNTY, GA (CBS46) –
    The FBI is investigating after a toxic substance showed up in a north Georgia community.

    According to Fannin County Sheriff Dane Kirby, 27-year-old William Gibbs went to the hospital saying he had been exposed to a toxin and was seeking medical treatment.

    The sheriff, along with the Georgia Army National Guard team that performed presumptive tests on the substance in Gibbs’ car, confirm ricin was present.

    It was sent to a lab for further testing and confirmation.

    Sheriff Kirby said it was contained to Gibbs’ car.

    “As far as, I know there was nobody else involved,” he said.

    He said he did not know what Gibbs was allegedly doing with the substance.

    Read more: http://www.cbs46.com/story/34461695/fbi-investigating-after-ricin-found-in-fannin-county-mans-car#ixzz4YBfA3nB8

    • DXer said

      Who is William Christopher Gibbs? How do authorities know he hasn’t already used the ricin?

      Ricin Found in Car of Georgia White Supremacist
      http://blog.adl.org/extremism/ricin-found-in-car-of-georgia-white-supremacist

      White supremacists and anti-government extremists alike have attempted to obtain or to make it, as well as plotted ways to use it. In 2014, for example, members of a north Georgia militia group were sentenced to 10 years in prison after being convicted of conspiring to make ricin to be used as a weapon and possessing a biological toxin for use as a weapon.

      It may come as no surprise, then, that Gibbs, too, appears to have extremist connections. On one social media profile, Gibbs identifies himself as belonging to the Georgia Church of Creativity. On another profile he repeatedly posted Creativity graphics and he also shows up on the website of the Creativity Alliance, where he has posted photos of himself wearing a Creativity jacket.

      The Creativity Movement is a hardcore white supremacist group that dates back to the 1970s, notable for its attempt to assume the guise of a religion as a way to promote its racist and anti-Semitic views. Originally known as the Church of the Creator, then the World Church of the Creator, it collapsed in 2003 after its then-leader Matt Hale was arrested for soliciting the murder of a federal judge. Hale received a 40-year prison sentence for the crime in 2004, after which his group broke up into various factions and remnants.

      Comment: Even if Mr. Gibbs convinces authorities that there was no use, it can be expected, I imagine, that very serious charges will indeed follow. Does his phone indicate his recent movements and locations?

      • DXer said

        If he says it was all a chemistry experiment, he should have stuck with silly putty.

        __________

        Soraya Yazid Retweeted
        Shower Thoughts ‏@TheWeirdWorld Feb 1
        The more I learn about Chemistry, the more I realize how little of something it takes to kill you

      • DXer said

        Why Is This Neo-Nazi With Deadly Poison Not A Security Threat?
        http://www.carbonated.tv/news/neo-nazi-william-christopher-gibbs-ricin-arrested-reckless-conduct

        His Facebook profile reveals the man, who is white, is a member of Georgia Church of Creativity and is a self-professed “White Racial Loyalist.” The “church” is not a real church but a white supremacist, white separatist organization, first known as the Church of the Creator. The movement was found in 1973 by Ben Klassen, a former Florida legislator to promote the “inherent superiority and ‘creativity’ of the white race.”

        The SPLC also placed the Creativity Alliance as an active neo-Nazi group.

        Gibbs’ Facebook also contains a profile photo with the words “100 years from now when someone finds one of these trees thay [sic] will know that there was once a White Race.”

        Gibbs was arrested on Feb. 2 on reckless conduct and violation of probation charges, according to Fox News. In the police report, it was stated the man suffered from various mental issues, including schizophrenia.

    • DXer said

      NU lab plays key role in biocybersecurity
      Updated: 10:25 PM CST Feb 9, 2017
      http://www.ketv.com/article/nu-lab-plays-key-role-in-biocybersecurity/8700603

      Comment:

      God forbid that hackers would permit a generic to be made for a ricin vaccine — so that the company could not make billions.

      It is galling that so much money is spent on biodefense and the Department of Justice is so lame in document retrieval that it cannot even produce Dr. Ivins’ Lab Notebook 4282 with notations at the time of mailing.

      Thought question: how much money is being spent to map the social network of wannabe ricin warrior, William Christopher Gibbs, so as to round up any conspirators?

      Let’s start with an easy question: where did he get the castor beans?

      What has he been arrested for previously? Who was involved in those crimes?

      If he is schizophrenic, then the FBI might start by arresting his imaginary friends who are in contact with him (and delve into the nature of their paranoia).

  3. DXer said

    Breaking Badly: Pharmacist Pleads Guilty to Stockpiling Homemade Poison
    He should’ve paid attention in chemistry class

    By Dashel Pierson | 05/30/14 10:59am
    http://observer.com/2014/05/breaking-badly-pharmacist-pleads-guilty-to-stockpiling-homemade-poison/#ixzz33EcrpQ5M

    http://observer.com/2014/05/breaking-badly-pharmacist-pleads-guilty-to-stockpiling-homemade-poison/

    Former NJ pharmacist admits developing deadly toxins for a violent confrontation
    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/05/nj_pharmacist_admits_developing_deadly_toxins_for_violent_showdown.html
    By Thomas Zambito/The Star-Ledger
    May 29, 2014 at 2:49 PM, updated May 30, 2014 at 7:21 AM

    Comment: This week my sister-in-law got the autograph of Bryan Cranston. He is on Broadway with the play LBJ and they were discussing the LBJ museum in Texas. My sister-in-law says the play was tremendous. He signed the autograph “Study chemistry.”

    In interviews this week, he is hinting that “Breaking Bad” may not be over. My wife and I binged on the show one long weekend.

    • DXer said

      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/03/fbi-seeking-california-man-in-federal-investigation/

      FBI arrests California explosives suspect after manhunt
      Published June 03, 2014FoxNews.com

      I let Walter White get to me. I thought I was done. That’s it. No one was ever in danger. And recently I was all better. I owe my friends and my girlfriend for that. But I guess I did enough for the damage to be done. I’m so sorry everyone.”

      Comment:

      See the trouble that binge-watching TV can get you in? I was at first pleased last night to see that the third season of SHERLOCK is on Netflix and so was disappointed in the first one or two episodes of this new batch. I hope they get back to cases and clues and spend less time on the relationship between our two protagonists.

      A mass show of force upon such arrests is the most prudent way to proceed.

  4. DXer said

    Another ricin plot. This one murder-for-hire. They are coming to be so common that they are begininng to lose their newsworthiness.

    Test Results Confirm Ricin Found In Murder-For-Hire Suspect’s Home

    Posted: Apr 19, 2014 7:38 PM EDT
    Updated: Apr 19, 2014 9:27 PM EDT
    By Matthew Nuttle, News9.com – email
    http://www.news9.com/story/25290769/test-results-confirm-ricin-found-in-murder-for-hire-suspects-home

    Arrest Made In Oklahoma City Murder-For-Hire Investigation

    Posted: Apr 17, 2014 11:06 PM EDT
    Updated: Apr 18, 2014 10:49 AM EDT

    http://www.news9.com/story/25279740/arrest-made-in-oklahoma-city-murder-for-hire-investigation

  5. DXer said

    Georgetown student charged with possessing ricin
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/georgetown-student-charged-with-possessing-ricin/2014/03/21/e649bb9e-b120-11e3-9627-c65021d6d572_story.html

    A Georgetown University student has been charged with possessing the powerful toxin ricin after it was discovered in his McCarthy Hall dormitory room on Monday, according to court documents.

    Daniel Harry Milzman, 19, of Bethesda, is facing federal charges for possessing more than 120 milligrams of the poison — more than enough to kill a person.

    Milzman informed his residential advisor that he had created ricin and showed the advisor a plastic bag containing what he claimed was the substance, according to court documents. The residential advisor notified school counselors, who alerted police. …

    He wore goggles and a dust mask during the production, which authorities later found in the room, according to the court documents. Milzman stored the ricin in plastic bags secured with hockey tape.

  6. DXer said

    http://news.yahoo.com/cops-pennsylvania-man-sent-poisoned-card-rival-135509270.html

    Cops: Pennsylvania man sent poisoned card to rival

    HATBORO, Pa. (AP) — A man sent a birthday card laced with the deadly poison ricin to a romantic rival in hopes of winning back his ex-girlfriend, authorities said.

    Nicholas Helman, 19, was arrested at his home in Hatboro, outside Philadelphia, Wednesday on an attempted murder charge and other counts, authorities in Bucks County said.

    Helman told a Target store co-worker earlier this month that he sent the toxic card to his ex-girlfriend’s current boyfriend, investigators said. The co-worker notified police, who called the recipient’s home and spoke to his mother, who said her daughter was outside getting the mail at that moment. Authorities then went to the home to confiscate the card.

    Helman was questioned March 7 and told investigators only that he had coated the card with a substance that resembled anthrax, authorities said in an affidavit of probable cause. He said he intended to scare his ex-girlfriend in hopes of reconciling with her, police said. He initially was charged with terroristic threats and harassment and spent four days behind bars before making bail.

    Authorities said Helman had ingredients for making ricin, a poison that occurs naturally in castor beans, but that initial tests didn’t turn up the toxin itself. Authorities then sent the card away for more lab tests, and prosecutors were told Tuesday that traces of ricin had been confirmed on the card, the district attorney’s office said. Police accompanied by hazardous materials teams and the FBI then arrested Helman.

    Bucks County District Attorney David Heckler told The Philadelphia Inquirer that the toxin was “very potent.”

    “He made ricin, and if you lick that card, you’re dead,” he said.

    Court documents don’t list an attorney for Helman, who was jailed without bail after his arraignment Wednesday night. He has a March 27 preliminary hearing.

    His father, Douglas, told The (Doylestown) Intelligencer that he knew nothing about the charges. He said his son had been good at science and math in school and made Eagle Scout last year.

    • DXer said

      In a ricin story this week (that I think is unrelated but maybe not):

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/powder-in-georgetown-room-tests-positive-for-ricin-no-immediate-threat-university-says/2014/03/19/3fa49902-afb4-11e3-9627-c65021d6d572_story.html

      Powder in Georgetown room tests positive for ricin; ‘no immediate threat,’ university says

      By Clarence Williams and Nick Anderson, Published: March 19 E-mail the writers
      A white powder found Tuesday in a Georgetown University dorm room tested positive for ricin, school officials said Wednesday, and a D.C. police report indicates that a 19-year-old man told authorities he had produced the substance.

      In an e-mail sent campuswide, the university said there was no danger to the community. Law enforcement officials said they did not think that the case was connected to terrorism. ***

      FBI spokeswoman Jacqueline Maguire said no arrests had been made as of Wednesday, but officials continued to investigate.

      • DXer said

        FBI investigating ricin incident at McCarthy Hall
        Posted on March 20, 2014
        http://georgetownvoice.com/2014/03/20/fbi-investigating-mccarthy-hall-ricin-incident/

        After the powdery substance was found, the University evacuated 21 residents who occupied the 13 rooms on the east side of McCarthy Hall. According to an email forwarded to the Voice, at approximately 11:00 a.m. on Tuesday, Director of Residential Education Ed Gilhool told residents they had to leave their rooms by 11:30 a.m. “out of an abundance of caution.”

        These residents were not permitted to return to their rooms for 30 hours and were provided with overnight accommodations at the Savoy Hotel.

        Resident of the sixth floor of McCarthy Josh Tsung (COL ’15) was not displaced and saw much of the FBI’s investigation on the floor. He described the initial investigation as low activity and observed “just one policeman sitting out in a chair.”

        “It wasn’t until 11:30 [a.m.], actually, that everything happened with the FBI,” Tsung said. “I think the hazard control people came and surveyed the area and asked the police to notify everybody to move.”

        Tsung saw FBI officials in hazardous materials suits near and inside the subject’s room. He said police and FBI officials were on the floor for four hours and estimated 50 people were on the floor at one time.

        At 3:20 p.m. on Wednesday, ResLife gave the students the all-clear and let them return to their rooms. Throughout the incident, the University stressed there was no immediate danger to any students.

        “In an abundance of caution, the University secured contractors who specialize in the decontamination of biological threat agents to clean the room under investigation where the contained substance was recovered,” Gruber wrote in the community-wide email.

        Gruber also wrote that anyone poisoned by ricin would have to have shown severe symptoms within 24 hours of poisoning. “This window has passed and there are no reports consistent with ricin exposure,” Gruber wrote.

        “We [the FBI] did swabs of all sorts of surfaces in the area and those all came back negative,” Maguire added.

        As the Voice went to press, the subject in the case had not been charged with a crime and has not been identified as a suspect in the investigation of a crime.

      • DXer said

        Georgetown incident:

        “An alleged confidante of the FBI interviewee described tipping off university administrators on Tuesday. The informant recounted raising the possibility that the subject possessed ricin, and “intended to use the substance on another student.”

        http://www.nationaljournal.com/global-security-newswire/ricin-seized-separately-in-d-c-dorm-room-scratch-and-sniff-card-20140320

  7. DXer said

    There is some clarity in a different ricin case. Interestingly, in 3 out of 3 the ricin cases, there was an obvious and clumsy attempt to frame someone else. In each of the 3 cases, there was actual ricin used. This sort of crime is even more stupid than a white powder letter.

    As I recall this Seattle case, there is what seems to have been sure-footed investigation leading to a decisive result and quick arrest.

    January 11, 2014

    Ricin-laced mail sent in stolen law firm stationery
    Kip Hill The Spokesman-Review
    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/jan/11/ricin-laced-mail-sent-in-stolen-law-firm/

    Matthew Ryan Buquet, 34, has been in federal custody since a few days after mailings that tested positive for the castor bean-derived poison started showing up at the courthouse, a Spokane post office, Fairchild Air Force Base and the White House mail facility. The courthouse letter, which read, “We have a bomb placed we are going to kill you! Hezbollah,” arrived in an envelope from Lukins and Annis, according to federal court filings.

    The Spokane branch of the firm employs 32 attorneys; Lukins and Annis also has offices in Moses Lake and Coeur d’Alene. …

    Mike Maurer, president of the firm, said Friday he was aware of the court filing and declined to comment further. Documents, which have subsequently been sealed, identify the firm only by initials, though the company Buquet worked for before his arrest, ABM, cleans Lukins and Annis’ offices.

    FBI officials questioned one of the firm’s female employees whose name also appeared on the envelope. The message inside, appearing on a half-sheet of paper, was written in block letters and stained with a “white substance with black dots,” according to the U.S. District Court employee who opened the mail. Upon opening the letter, the employee immediately donned a respirator and called postal officials, according to court documents.

    The law firm employee denied sending the poisoned letter but pointed investigators to a “secret admirer” who had been leaving love notes and an unopened can of Coca-Cola on her desk at night. ABM told FBI agents that Buquet was transferred from the building and had been disciplined before for similar behavior in 2006, according to court documents. He was fired a week after his transfer.

    Aside:

    I just learned recently that apple seeds contain a form of cyanide — and so the family dog should not be given an apple unless it is cored. It is inside the seed and so the small amount of the substance related to cyanide would need to be masticated and broken — and then accumulated from regular eating. But dogs die from eating too many raisins or grapes (for reasons unclear to me) and so it seems something that dog-owners should heed.

  8. DXer said

    Consider the wild parallels between the Pine County, MN case and the two ricin cases, especially the Texas ricin case in which the divorcing wife sought to frame her husband.

    “Lab tests revealed the white powder was a relatively common bacteria, used as an insecticide, but it was uncommonly pure and processed. Along with a white powder was a note that said, in part, “You have failed the citizens of America…you have failed to arrest Johnnie Long…I hope you all rot in HELL right with John!!!”

    The address on the envelope was listed to Long’s home in Braham, Minn. That’s where the FBI and a weapons of mass destruction team found the same white powder, as well as materials used to make fake explosives.

    The sheriff said it was all part of a bizarre and convoluted plan to frame Long’s ex-wife and her new boyfriend. What concerned the sheriff is that Long’s behavior was escalating from fake bombs to white powder to something he’s unwilling to yet reveal.

    “In our estimation, it wasn’t going to end well,” Sheriff Cole said.

    There is a $10,000 reward for Syracuse cases where I believe yet undisclosed return addresses are thought to have been intended to frame someone.

    There are such a wide range of forensics and investigative methods to be brought to be bear.

    For example, in Amerithrax, the FBI could publish instead of withholding the Ivins 302 from October 2001 in which they interviewed about his how he had been spending his time. (See Henry Heine February 2010 interview on wfmd radio in which he says numerous USAMRIID scientists were interviewed in October 2001 regarding their activities.) Dr. Ivins had the largest collection of Ames and so why wouldn’t he have been interviewed in October 2001?

    27 terrorism charges for Pine County courthouse mailings

    Read more: Pine County man won’t confess to creating white powder – KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/24232683/johnnie-long-wmd-white-powder-charges#ixzz2nv3UZZoK

    Sheriff Robin Cole said Long had already become one of the usual suspects in Pine County, allegedly faking his own kidnapping and planting fake explosives around town. Then came the six letters with white powder, addressed to two judges, the county attorney, the sheriff and two of his deputies.

    The mailings led to the evacuation of the courthouse and some tense hours for workers exposed to the white powder.

    Lab tests revealed the white powder was a relatively common bacteria, used as an insecticide, but it was uncommonly pure and processed. Along with a white powder was a note that said, in part, “You have failed the citizens of America…you have failed to arrest Johnnie Long…I hope you all rot in HELL right with John!!!”

    The address on the envelope was listed to Long’s home in Braham, Minn. That’s where the FBI and a weapons of mass destruction team found the same white powder, as well as materials used to make fake explosives.

    The sheriff said it was all part of a bizarre and convoluted plan to frame Long’s ex-wife and her new boyfriend. What concerned the sheriff is that Long’s behavior was escalating from fake bombs to white powder to something he’s unwilling to yet reveal.

    “In our estimation, it wasn’t going to end well,” Sheriff Cole said.

    Read more: Pine County man won’t confess to creating white powder – KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/24232683/johnnie-long-wmd-white-powder-charges#ixzz2nv3RTEPg

    • DXer said

      We certainly know that something wild is going on — with powder being found, the return address etc.

      And we have the FoxNews “exclusive” report that the Sheriff says that Johnnie Long has confessed.

      But I think our experience in the two ricin cases counsels a wait-and-see until we get confirmation from the Sheriff and/or prosecutor that he has confessed.

    • DXer said

      On Dec 13, 2013 Fox9 reported he confessed in an article updated Dec 13, 2013 10:13 AM EST

      Pine County man arrested in white powder mailing, fake bombs

      Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole told Fox 9 News Long confessed during an interview with police, and although no motive has been specifically given, Fox 9 News has learned exclusively that the man may have been trying to frame others for the crime.

      Read more: Pine County man arrested in white powder mailing, fake bombs – KMSP-TV http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/24209341/man-arrested-after-white-powder-mailed-to-pine-county-courthouse#ixzz2nvQyYNb8

      But then in an article has a headline “Pine County man won’t confess to creating white powder – KMSP-TV” but when you click through there is no mention of any confession (or the lack of one).

      http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/24232683/johnnie-long-wmd-white-powder-charges
      Updated: Dec 17, 2013 9:22 AM EST

      Did he confess? Or not? Did he confess and recant?

    • DXer said

      As Mr. Nemmers, who had the license plate JOHN 7:24, would say: judge not on appearance, but judge righteously.

      Let’s start with something easy. Isn’t the pure BT or whatever it is something that can be bought commercially over-the-counter? Who bought it and where did they buy it?

      What is Johnnie Long’s skill set? Are they suggesting he cultured it?

    • DXer said

      Braham Man Charged in Courthouse Envelope Incident

      Created: 12/16/2013 10:58 PM WDIO.com

      A man arrested for allegedly sending powder-filled envelopes to the Pine County Courthouse last month, is now charged with 21 felonies and 2 misdemeanors.

      Besides the charges stemming from that incident, 45-year-old Johnnie Earl Long of Braham also faces several charges for making terroristic threats with real or simulated weapons of mass destruction.

      The criminal complaint alleges that Long placed weapons made to look like explosives in several driveways and mailboxes.

  9. DXer said

    If you read the transcript of the FBI Agent’s testimony in the ricin case — when the FBI was accusing Curtis — you may hear echos of Amerithrax in the confidence the Agent showed in his assertions and conclusion.

    There are new developments in both cases in which mailers of ricin sought to frame someone else.

    In Amerithrax, the USG reasons that Bruce Ivins was trying to frame Al Qaeda.

    To many, that seems analogous to Dutschke trying to frame Paul Kevin Curtis even though Curtis was actually working to use ricin as a weapon; or if the pregnant lady’s husband had separately ordered castor beans from the internet and stored his ricin in a different tupperware container in the fridge.

    A different view of Amerithrax is that any scientist who knew of the experiment with the mice and rabbits — or knew of porn surfing in the B3 on the laptop installed that summer — was trying to frame Bruce Ivins. It seems for AQ to frame Ivins (rather than USG generally) there would have to be actual knowledge of the experiment with the 52 rabbits, trips to Covance etc. — which would require a connection or hacking of email.

    Similarly, my source regarding the Syracuse hoax letters is that someone is trying to frame someone else. Better understanding the suggestion might require disclosure of the return addresses. There is still a $10,000 reward in that case that my intelligence source tells me that blogger Ed is still fervently hoping to collect. :0) He also argued to the FBI that I was responsible for the Goldman Sachs letters — when he wasn’t arguing that a First Grader wrote the Fall 2001 anthrax letters. He has argued the First Grader and I are guilty without even a possibility of a reward. He’s such a civic minded guy. A worthy adversary of any First Grader, to be sure.

    The alleged additional attempted frame from prison by the Dutschke/Elvis impersonator is especially stunning because of the overwhelming evidence against him — relating to what was found in his karate studio. In hindsight, the Elvis impersonator seems way too goofy and likable and chatty to be guilty — although in the FBI’s defense the use of the signature phrase certainly was dramatic evidence.

    Man who ‘framed Elvis impersonator after sending ricin to Obama and other politicians tried to do it again from behind bars’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511697/James-Everett-Dutschke-framed-Elvis-impersonator-sending-ricin-Obama-tried-again.html#ixzz2lYf7Zjlv

    The martial arts instructor and Elvis impersonator is alleged to have tried to frame rival Elvis impersonator Paul Kevin Curtis by including slogans in the letters that Curtis had used on his Facebook page.

    The new indictment, filed in U.S. District Court in Oxford, alleges Dutschke, who has been incarcerated since April, tried to recruit someone to make more ricin and send it to Senator Wicker, thereby putting Curtis back under suspicion.

    The new indictment, dated Wednesday, said Dutschke also wanted a message in the subsequent letter: ‘It doesn’t matter the Fife types have the wrong one. D. had to be sacrificed to show the corruption in the system. I tried to warn you. Ha. K.’

    see also

    Texas woman accused of sending ricin-laced letters to President Obama and others in an attempt to frame her husband has reached a plea deal.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-ricin-suspect-frame-husband-cuts-deal/story?id=20991855

    Shannon Richardson — an actress who was pregnant at the time of her arrest in June — signed a guilty plea, admitting her role in ordering the components to make the ricin and also in mailing the letters, her attorney said today.

    In exchange for her plea the federal government has agreed to not sentence her to more than 18 years.

    • DXer said

      Texas Woman Admits To Sending Ricin To Obama
      By NOMAAN MERCHANT 12/10/13
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/texas-ricin-obama_n_4420234.html

      Her attorney, Tonda Curry, said last month that she and prosecutors agreed to a deal capping Richardson’s sentence at 18 years. Prosecutors say Richardson faces life in prison for the charge to which she pleaded guilty.

      Curry has said that Richardson wanted to “tell the government who else was involved in those offenses,” but declined to name anyone. In the document filed Tuesday, known as a factual resume, Richardson does not name anyone else but says that the supplies she ordered “were used to make ricin” — not that she made the ricin herself.

      Nathan Richardson has not been charged in the case, even though Shannon Richardson has repeatedly tried to blame him, said John Delk, Nathan Richardson’s attorney.

      “He was interviewed the very first day, and he’s been cooperative since Day One,” Delk said.

      Nathan Richardson has temporary custody of the couple’s newborn son, who is healthy and steadily growing, Delk said. The couple’s divorce likely will not be finalized until next year.

      A federal judge ultimately will sentence Shannon Richardson at a later sentencing hearing, which has not yet been scheduled.

  10. DXer said

    Dr. Vahid Majidi writes:

    “Owing to the lessons learned from the anthrax attacks of 2001, the FBI has successfully managed the hundreds of cases involving biological substances and suspicious powders.”

    Unlike Amerithrax, in the Curtis case, the FBI admitted its mistake and then moved on to solve the case.

    In Amerithrax, the FBI is still in a defensive, CYA ostrich-head-in-the-sand mode. And Dr. Majidi is its spokesman and proud banner carrier.

  11. DXer said

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.12000/full

    Forensic Applications of Light-Element Stable Isotope Ratios of Ricinus communis Seeds and Ricin Preparations†

    • Helen W. Kreuzer Ph.D.‡*,
    • Jason B. West Ph.D.§,
    • James R. Ehleringer Ph.D.

    Article first published online: 6 NOV 2012
    DOI: 10.1111/1556-4029.12000

    Journal of Forensic Sciences
    Special Issue: The American Academy of Forensic Sciences and Wiley-Blackwell have published this supplement without fi nancial support
    Volume 58, Issue Supplement s1, pages S43–S51, January 2013
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    This work was funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, BAA Solicitation Number: BAA-0034104, Interest Area 103. H.W.K. also received support from the Laboratory Directed Research and Development Program at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, a multiprogram laboratory operated by Battelle for the U.S. Department of Energy under Contract DE-AC05-76RL01830. Funding from the National Science Foundation (Grant no. 0743543) to J.B.W. provided partial support for this work.

    Abstract

    Seeds of the castor plant Ricinus communis are of forensic interest because they are the source of the poison ricin. We tested whether stable isotope ratios of castor seeds and ricin preparations can be used as a forensic signature. We collected over 300 castor seed samples worldwide and measured the C, N, O, and H isotope ratios of the whole seeds and oil. We prepared ricin by three different procedures, acetone extraction, salt precipitation, and affinity chromatography, and compared their isotope ratios to those of the source seeds. The N isotope ratios of the ricin samples and source seeds were virtually identical. Therefore, N isotope ratios can be used to correlate ricin prepared by any of these methods to source seeds. Further, stable isotope ratios distinguished >99% of crude and purified ricin protein samples in pairwise comparison tests. Stable isotope ratios therefore constitute a valuable forensic signature for ricin preparations.

  12. DXer said

    Yet another apparent ricin case.

    Letters to NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg test positive for ricin, police say
    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/letters_to_nyc_mayor_michael_b.html#incart_river_default

    Do wannabe terrorists appreciate that they only are going to incur some more erudite derision from Dick Destiny about hapless bean pounders?

    It has to be one of the stupidest crimes around.

    • DXer said

      So there are no fewer than three ricin cases from this past month. ABC in the link below is reporting on a possible lead in the castor bean letter sent to Mayor Bloomberg.

      The FBI and associated agencies did good work in correcting their course in the case in Mississippi involving the mistaken allegation against Elvis impersonator named Paul Curtis. But the FBI agent’s testimony that first day is a fascinating case study — the FBIl used speculative theory to fill gaps in proof in supporting a zealous prosecutor’s charge. The FBI should never lend its prestige and authority to speculative theory. Instead, the FBI should always collect the greatest possible amount of information consistent with civil liberties and then do its utmost to connect the dots. In the Elvis impersonator case in Mississippi, to the prosecutor’s and investigator’s great credit, they worked quickly to ensure the public’s safety but never stopped seeking the best evidence possible.

      In Amerithrax, US Attorney Taylor left for a high-paying job, the head of the FBI Field Office Persichini left upon accusation that he cheated on an open book test on how to conduct a national security investigation (being texted teh answers by his lawyers during the test), and the lead AUSA Kenneth Kohl was found guilty of prosecutorial misconduct in a historic federal district court decision. AUSA Kohl literally was consumed by the Blackwater defense counsel led by none other than the former counsel for Steve Hatfill. The junior AUSA in turn had been embroiled in a very tumultous and upsetting matter that involved the departure of the lawyer who assigned female associates cases. She was reprimanded when she went to visit a jihadi in jail because a “deal had been cut” in another matter and he was off-limits in Amerithrax. (Thus, I blame the superiors and credit her good faith in going to visit the jihadi in jail). But there simply was no one in a position to correct the course of the investigation that tragically led to the suicide of Dr. Ivins. There was a failure of leadership. The lead investigator was “comfortable” with an Ivins Theory — when he had no reason to be. It was the withholding of the documents and information relating to why Ivins was in the lab those nights that constituted especially egregious conduct. Anyone involved in the continued withholding of documents or in the delay of their production to GAO is responsible for the botched conclusions in Amerithrax.

      Here is the ABC story on the crushed castor bean letter to Mayor Bloomberg. Ricin cases are covered only to the extent that they shed light on the FBI’s conduct of Amerithrax — to include forensics. I find the one from the gun nut uninteresting but am still totally unclear on what the motive might be with the ricin letters from Spokane.

      http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/person-interest-questioned-amid-exclusive-images-possibly-ricin/story?id=19285946#.Ua

    • DXer said

      So the husband says the wife is setting him up. He says they are getting a divorce and she was away for a couple of days and then it is when she came back she found the ricin. They are scheduled for polygraphs. We can expect the FBI now to conduct search(es) at the location his wife was located.

      The polygraphs have not been shown to be scientifically reliable but I suppose we should be glad that the FBI hasn’t yet brought in the ricin smelling dogs.

      It is a fascinating mystery but I have little doubt that the FBI will be able to definitively resolve it — given the computer forensics and other records. Even things like traffic cameras and ATM cameras and store cameras.

      For example, she should look to see if she can prove that she was elsewhere when the google searches for the Bloomberg and other addresses were searched. He should also. Phone records, including cell tower records, are the type of thing that will lead to an arrest. Not polygraphs.

      In Amerithrax, the FBI concluded Dr. Ivins passed both his polygraphs. Later when they developed a theory he was guilty — based on made-up and contrived arguments — they reinterpreted the same results and concluded he had engaged in deception and used countermeasures.

      Pseudo-scientific crap.

      Patricia Fellows certainly did screw Dr. Ivins, though, by hiding the ball about Dr. Ivins work with the animals. An Ivins Theory does not survive those lab notebooks, protocol, and other contemporaneous documents.

      There may be other men or women in the same circle who need to be ruled out.

      http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/06/ricin-suspect-claims-actress-wife-set-him-up.html

    • DXer said

      As a logical matter, the 19-year-old will have to be excluded too. It is a very stupid and pointless crime.

      Woman who ratted out hubby suspect in ricin-mailing probe says she wants a divorce
      • By REBECCA ROSENBERG in New Boston, Texas, KIP GROSENICK in Jefferson, Ga., and DAN MacLEOD in New York
      • Last Updated: 10:04 AM, June 2, 2013

      Her son, Brenden Guess, 19, told The Post that his mother was paranoid that her husband was trying to poison her with ricin.

      Shannon Rogers Guess and Nathaniel Richardson.

      “She thought he was injecting it into her food and drinks,” he said, adding that she became suspicious after discovering on his computer an order for castor beans, from which ricin is derived.

      “She told me she was trying to be as careful as possible. She didn’t eat unless it was straight from the store to her hand, basically.”

      Investigators couldn’t find enough evidence to hold Richardson, the sources said. …

      Richardson told investigators that his wife claimed to have found the ricin after returning home from being away for a few days, and that they were going through a divorce.

      But Guess said she never left town and had only discussed ending the marriage.

      “I didn’t go anywhere. I’m laughing at some of the stuff I’m reading,” she said as she took her four kids to lunch at McDonald’s.

    • DXer said

      Texas actress arrested in ricin case, sources say
      By Joe Johns, Susan Candiotti and Carol Cratty, CNN
      updated 4:22 PM EDT, Fri June 7, 2013
      http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/07/justice/ricin-letters-arrest/?hpt=hp_t1

    • DXer said

      http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/actress-arrested-accused-husband-ricin-documents.php

      The letter to Obama allegedly contained slightly different text (again, sic throughout):

      “You will have to kill me and my family before you get my guns.Anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face.I served in the united states army and because your muslim ass will probly never be able to retire.i will have to work until I take my last breath.I deserve better and so do my wife and kiddos.I will take care of this myself and make sure you wont be runnin this country in the ground any further. What’s in this letter is nothing compared to what ive got in store for you mr president.

      Spiropoulos said Shannon Richardson was “re-interviewed” on May 31 and “it was determined that she had been deceptive via a polygraph examination regarding her involvement in sending the letters.” When investigators made Shannon aware of the polygraph results, Spiropoulos said she told them she “had been aware” her husband sent the letters and, as a result, “took deliberate steps to ensure that he would be apprehended” including placing castor beans near a golf cart he had been working on. Spiropoulos said subsequent searches did not turn up traces of ricin in the locations Shannon said she had placed the beans.

      Inside the Richardsons’ home, Spiropoulos said investigators found incriminating material including a box containing “20-30 beans” that were labeled as castor beans, “three or more syringes containing an unknown liquid,” “four or more needles,” “a bag containing approximately one teaspoon of an orange-brown unidentified substance,” a cup with “milky, white liquid,” and an “SD data storage card.” According to Spiropoulos’ affidavit, many of the items taken from the home tested positive for ricin.

      Comment: Putting aside lack of scientific reliability, the polygraph has proved its investigative usefulness in the case of a stupid, guilty polygraph subject. But hopefully she kept talking to give details that could be corroborated.

    • DXer said

      “I’m sitting there thinking I don’t even know what ricin is,” Nathaniel Richardson said. “I wasn’t even saying it right at first. I was calling it licin. Really, everything I’ve learned about it I’ve learned from [the FBI].”

      Richardson claims he didn’t even know who Bloomberg was.

      “No sir, I thought it was [N.J. Gov.] Chris Christie,” he said.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-husband-framed-wife-ricin-letters-calls-anger/story?id=19388614#.UbniUs1cr5M

      The wrongly accused Elvis Presley similarly said he thought they said “rice.” He told the FBI he didn’t even like rice.

      Similarly, the fellow from Wisconsin — the theory had promptly dismissed by the FBI Director as “baloney” but for nearly a decade one prolific blogger insisted the FBI Director was lying — similarly did not know that anthrax was a bacteria.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-husband-framed-wife-ricin-letters-calls-anger/story?id=19388614#.UbniUs1cr5M

  13. DXer said

    In a different case involving two letters characterized as ricin-laced, why would someone mail a ricin tainted letter to the Post Office?

    May 16, 2013 in City, Idaho
    Two ricin-laced letters seized in Spokane
    Mike Prager The Spokesman-Review
    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/may/16/two-ricin-laced-letters-seized-spokane/

    Feds investigate ricin-tainted letters in Spokane, Washington
    By Michael Martinez, CNN
    updated 7:16 AM EDT, Fri May 17, 2013
    Postal Service management told employees they weren’t at risk from handling the letters because the suspected substance was not in a form that could be inhaled or readily ingested, the union said. Preliminary lab tests showed the substance to be ricin, the union said.

    • DXer said

      The letter was post-marked Tuesday (which was the May 14th) in Spokane.

      http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021000813_apwaricinspokane1stld.html

      http://fox2now.com/2013/05/16/feds-investigate-ricin-tainted-letters-in-spokane-washington/

      But this says both were postmarked the 13th.

      http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/postal-worker-union-warns-spokane-employees-about-ricin-laced-letters/-/101214/20169750/-/58ksxd/-/index.html

      One reason the date of the postmark is of special interest is that bears on the possibility others are en route to locations further away.

      • DXer said

        Here is the initial report that the Post Office to Postal employees:

        Mandatory Stand-Up Talk May 15, 2013

        Employee safety paramount following suspicious letter report
        http://www.apwu.org/news/webart/2013/13-061-ricin-spokanel-130515-sut.pdf

      • DXer said

        May 18, 2013 in City
        FBI, Spokane police swarm Browne’s Addition

        http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/may/18/fbi-swarm-brownes-addition/

        The search occurred in an older apartment building on the north side of First Avenue between Oak and Elm streets in Browne’s Addition.

      • DXer said

        FBI officials tight-lipped about Spokane ricin case
        By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS, Associated Press Published: May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM PDT
        http://www.komonews.com/news/local/FBI-officials-tight-lipped-about-Spokane-ricin-case-208195301.html

        This is not Spokane’s first brush with the poison. In 2002, Kenneth R. Olsen of Spokane was arrested for possession of ricin in his office cubicle at a high-tech company.

        A co-worker tipped off the FBI about the software engineer after discovering documents about poisons and bomb-making that Olsen had printed from his computer. Olsen insisted his research was for a Boy Scout project.

        He was sentenced to almost 14 years in federal prison for possessing a chemical weapon and possessing a biological weapon.

      • DXer said

        Wall of secrecy around ricin case

        SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — The FBI has dropped a wall of secrecy around its investigation into the discovery of a pair of letters containing the deadly poison ricin in Spokane.

        ….

        FBI spokeswoman Ayn Sandalo Dietrich said Monday that legal documents in the case may also be sealed.

        http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/20/wall-of-secrecy-around-ricin-case/2343253/

      • DXer said

        “The FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said all four envelopes were postmarked May 13 in Spokane and are in the possession of law enforcement. Three contained active ricin toxin, and the Air Force base letter continues to undergo testing. Each was addressed by hand in red ink.”

        Red ink,huh. The Goldman Sachs letters were written in red ink. In the Goldman Sachs matter, in obtaining handwriting exemplars, the FBI agents asked people to provide handwriting exemplars — and for example will hand them a red and green ink pen. The person being interviewed then would be faced with a dilemma if they followed the news and had read that a red pen was used from reading the report. Do they reach for a red pen?

        What would be of interest at the Spokane air base to the recently discharged maintenance person? The President? The CIA location in McLean? What CIA location is there in McLean? I used to go regularly to a used book store in McLean because they had the best spy novels and there were a lot of CIA employees who resided in the area.

        But what is the perceived connection between these letters and the fellow who up until recently worked in maintenance? What evidence was the FBI relying upon in arresting him on the charge of writing a threatening letter to the judge? Although he did not seek bail, he was very ease at the hearing, joking with his attorney. I have read extensively on the fellow’s background but I am not up-to-date and have no insights on the FBI’s theory in the Spokane matter.

      • DXer said

        From a FAQ online:

        “Where is the Central Intelligence Agency’s Headquarters? Is it in Langley or McLean, Virginia? Technically, you could say CIA headquarters is in both. “Langley” is the name of the McLean neighborhood in which the CIA resides.

        In 1719, Thomas Lee acquired the land where the CIA headquarters is located today from the Fairfax family and named it Langley after his ancestral home. The town of McLean was founded in 1910 and despite the name change “Langley” still lingers today.”

        Thus, absent more information, I am presuming that the letter thought to have been sent to a CIA facility in McLean was sent to its main headquarters which is on the wonderful George Washington Parkway. I lived down the road in Arlington, VA for 15 years and it was when I hit the George Washington Parkway and passed the CIA building that I knew I was home.

      • DXer said

        Ricin letter: “We have a bomb placed, we are going to Kill you! Hezbollah”
        http://www.krem.com/news/local/Federal-Grand-Jury-indicts-Brownes-Addition-man-for-allegedly-mailing-ricin-212230891.html

        The same statement was found in addressed to a judge in Spokane according to court documents.

        Investigators said Buquet allegedly sent four other letters. The letters were addressed to Fairchild Air Force Base, a judge in Spokane, the CIA, and the Downtown Spokane post office. All of the letters tested positive for ricin.

    • DXer said

      FBI says 37-year-old man arrested in Spokane, Wash., ricin letter scare
      By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, May 22, 7:36

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fbi-says-37-year-old-man-arrested-in-spokane-wash-ricin-letter-scare/2013/05/22/5eddd342-c338-11e2-9642-a56177f1cdf7_story.html

    • DXer said

      Letters containing ricin were not just sent to the federal judge, they were also sent to the local air force base in Spokane, President Obama, and a McClean VA location for the CIA.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-ricin-letter-obama-wash-19292861#.UahZmZUwkTM

      • DXer said

        As to the Spokane defendant:

        Asked how federal authorities would be in a position to know about the existence of the CIA letter if it hadn’t yet been recovered, the officials pointed to interviews and other evidence. Pressed further, one official told Fox News: “Because we know how many castor beans he had in his house, how many he ordered online, et cetera.”

        Officials cautioned that there is “a significant difference” between a trained scientist weaponizing the ricin extracted from castor beans and an individual “taking some castor beans, running them through a coffee grinder, and soaking them in acetone” – a crude and ineffective homemade process that officials said would only be liable to induce, in a recipient foolish enough to go so far as to swallow the contents, symptoms as mild as diarrhea.

        Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/31/texas-man-questioned-but-not-charged-over-possible-ricin-letters/#ixzz2Uu1ABGEZ

        As to the Texas POI in the unrelated case:

        Texas man held by FBI in Obama threat, Bloomberg ricin letter cases revealed
        Army veteran Nathan Richardson, 33, being questioned by the FBI, is married to ‘The Walking Dead’ and ‘Vampire Diaries’ actress and Dallas beauty queen Shannon Rogers Guess — who turned him in.

        BY JENNIFER FERMINO , ROCCO PARASCANDOLA AND CORKY SIEMASZKO / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

        FRIDAY, MAY 31, 2013, 1:32 PM
        The Texas man being grilled in connection with the ricin-laced letters mailed to President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg is married to an actress who played a zombie in “The Walking Dead.”

        Richardson, an Army veteran who works at the Red River Army Depot in Texarkana, has not been charged with a crime, sources said.

        Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/texas-man-held-fbi-obama-threat-bloomberg-ricin-letter-cases-revealed-article-1.1359795#ixzz2UthZ7MfQ

        As to the Amerithrax case, he edited Wikipedia about a sorority.

      • DXer said

        Texas case:

        NEW BOSTON, TEXAS

        A Texas woman has told investigators her husband may have sent ricin-laced letters to President Barack Obama, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Bloomberg’s Washington-based gun control group, CBS News’ Anna Werner reports. But the woman’s husband has accused his wife, saying he was set up.

        The couple was being questioned Friday at a home in New Boston, Texas. Investigators told Werner the wife knows specific details about the letters.

        http://washingtonexaminer.com/washington-post-the-justice-department-has-allowed-us-to-say-ag-holder-supports-press-freedom/article/2530898

        Here, in the case of Texas man and wife, we have a fascinating Law and Order episode. What forensics would differentiate between a husband and wife, where both had access to the same computer, credit card information etc.

        I believe the point of mailing was 100 miles away from their home.

        The time that the computer was used to google the addresses and instructions for ricin would be precise and so it seems a starting point would be who was where at those times. In Amerithrax, Dr. Ivins’ old computer could contain precious information about the times he was surfing. Employees were instructed to bring home a copy of their computer — and so copies should have been made of the computers in the B3 even if the laptop went missing. (If he was surfing porn, as some men in privacy commonly do, that would be a great alibi if it were not a firing offense).

        In the Texas case, it is to be expected that a guilty husband might point to his wife, with no other viable explanation given the likely forensics.

        On the other hand, it seems highly improbable that a wife would have the balls to set up her husband that way because of the low probability of getting away with it — and the senselessness of the crime from the start.

        In Amerithrax, where a former Zawahiri associates thanks a scientist for her technical assistance, as Tarek did in thanking Pat Fellows, her mind might start racing to point the finger at the geeky colleague with some personal issues. The DOJ should never have shredded her civil deposition. That really was quite beyond the pale under all the circumstances.

        http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

        Spokane case:

        So it seems we know from a stray comment by an official that the defendant ordered some castor beans. Perhaps that is how he was tracked. Perhaps they looked for shipments from castor bean sellers for shipments to Spokane in the last few months. What would be his best defense? Making home-made motor oil? Loss of his job, his unusual consulting business of precision blasting, makes for an interesting profile. But we are waiting to hear from the FBI as to motive and details of the evidence. We otherwise haven’t heard any evidence yet other than a passing unattributed mention relating to purchase of castor beans. Maybe the secrecy was due to their perception that other letters were en route and they wanted to avoid copycats.

        In GAO’s review of the science in the Amerithrax investigation, it is important that GAO review not only the science selectively relied upon by the FBI — which for example narrowed the field to 100-200 at USAMRIID, 38 or so at Battelle etc. — but that they review the forensics that were exculpatory of Dr. Ivins — to include the findings on the paper, ink, toner etc. For example, if it is true that the paper was of European origin, then it is important that it be disclosed. If it is true that the photocopy toner analysis shows that the photocopiers at USAMRIID were not used, it is important that it be disclosed. If it is true that no exermplar was a match as to the ink used, that should be disclosed.

        All the documents and information relating to the scientific investigation should be disclosed — and not merely that the FBI provided the NAS, which didn’t point to Dr. Ivins in particular at all.

        The handwriting was not even close to a match.

        The theory was concocted and centered around false claims that Dr. Ivins had no reason to be in the lab — when the evidence shows that during the period he had an experiment that involved killing 52 rabbits and tending to business at night was a one man, two hour job. See Mara LInscott 302 statement.

    • DXer said

      http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021149057_apwaricinlettersspokane.html

      FBI: 5th Spokane letter discovered in ricin case

      The FBI says investigators have located a fifth letter sent from Spokane in connection with a ricin investigation.

      The Associated Press

      SPOKANE, Wash. —

      The FBI says investigators have located a fifth letter sent from Spokane in connection with a ricin investigation.

      Frank Harrill, the supervisory senior resident agent of the FBI in Spokane, said in an email that workers at a post office in the city discovered the letter Saturday after it was returned as undeliverable. It had been addressed to the Central Intelligence Agency.

  14. DXer said

    The affidavit of the Everett Dutschke provides overwhelming evidence of his guilt. Congratulations again both to the FBI, the prosecutors and Mr. Curtis’ defense counsel.

  15. DXer said

    Some highlights from the Affidavit In Support of Criminal Complaint, unsealed today.

    The ricin letters had a printed address label.

    “Field tests conducted on the suspicious granular substance presumptively provided positive and inconclusive field tests for Ricin.” 3 were positive and 1 field test was inconclusive.
    Further analysis for a member of the Laboratory Response Network advised the substantive was “highly reactive” by PCR/TRF for Ricin.

    The envelope to the President was addressed to President Barak (sic) Hussein Obama, The White House.” [Note: In a webpost he deleted I retrieved from archives, Dutchke referred to the President by his full name, including his middle name Hussein.]

    Para. 16 describes the arrest of Paul Kevin Curtis. [Note: Based on the described previous Facebook posting and correspondence by Mr. Curtis, there would have been probable cause because the contents of the letter fit his standard signature and his discussion of his manuscript “Missing Pieces.”

    That probable cause then evaporated due to the FBI’s continued investigation as noted below.]

    Para. 18 explains that a witness said that Dutschke years ago told the witness that the Dutschke could manufacture a “poison.” Dutschke stated that “he could place the poison in envelopes and send them to elected officials.” “According to the witness, on or about the same occasion, Dutschke made reference to having “a secret knowledge” for “getting rid of people in office.”

    “The witness also disclosed that he had had an altercation with Dutschke after Dutschke made sexual advances toward the witness’s daughter. Judge Holland dismissed a civil suit filed by Dutschke against the witness in 2006.”

    Para. 19. “different types of yellow paper, address labels, and a dust mask” were recovered” from “the trash receptacle from the curtilage of Dutschke’s residence.”

    “Some of the paper appears very similar in color to the above-described letters; however, they are of different shades of yellow. While the address labels that were found are larger than the labels on the threatening letters, it appears that the labels on the letters were cut from a larger label. Thus, the seized labels could have been cut to size and placed on the letters.”

    [Note: in time, analysis can determine the precise composition of the paper and labels and make a comparison. The forensic analysis of the paper in Amerithrax was exculpatory of Ivins and never produced.]

    Para. 20. Dutchke on April 22 told the owner of the property that housed his former business that he needed to extinguish a fire extinguisher, a mop and a bucket. He then was observed by surveillance personnel removing items from the location and driving a short distance where he disposed of them in a garbage receptable. Retrieved were a box for a Black and Decker Smart Grind coffee grinder, a box containing latex gloves, a dust mask, and an empty bucket of floor adhesive.”

    “Based on my training and experience, I know that a coffee bean grinder could be utilized in the process of extracting ricin from castor beans. Furthermore, latex gloves and a dust mask could be utilized as personal protective equipment while the castor beans are being crushed to protect the product from an accidental exposure.”

    • DXer said

      The test, both preliminary and final, was positive for ricin. (Para. 22)

    • DXer said

      On his computer, someone had downloaded a publication, Standard Operating Procedure for Ricin. And approximately two hours later someone downloaded on his computer,

      Immunochromotography Detection of Ricin in Environmental and Biological Samples, which describes a method for detecting ricin.

      Now this, again, was on December 31, 2012.

    • DXer said

      Para. 23 states:

      DUTSCHKE’s residence was searched pursuant to a federal warrant on April 23, 20l3. Before execution ofthe warrant, DUTSCHKE was interviewed. DUTSCHKE had previously been interviewed on April 18, 2013. In the course ofthe April 23 interview, DUTSCHKE stated that he had never purchased castor beans, nor had he even seen a castor bean. DUTSCHKE also told agents that, prior to his FBI interview on April 18, he had never researched or read articles regardingcastorbeansorricin. Initially,DUTSCHKEstatedthathehadnotbeenbacktothe Taekwando dojo since on or about April 15, 2013. When confronted with agents’ knowledge of his April 22 visit to the dojo, DUTSCHKE changed his answer. DUTSCHKE told agents that he had returned to the dojo only to remove a mop bucket, two pails, and a fire extinguisher; he emphatically stated that he never stopped after leaving the dojo on his way to a pawn shop. When he was confronted with being observed throwing items in a trash can, DUTSCHKE attempted to change the subject, and he ended the interview.

    • DXer said

      24. Among items seized from DUTSCHKE’s residence were a computer and a printer. The computer’s manufacturing information indicates that it was manufactured in January 20l3. However, a preliminary search indicated that the computer’s operating system had been reinstalled on April 22, 2013, and that a printer driver had also been installed on April 22, 20l3. I understand, from others involved in the investigation, that persons wishing to delete the contents oftheir hard drives will often reinstall a computer’s operating system.

    • DXer said

      25. On April 24, 2013, DUTSCHKE’s former business, Taekwondo Plus, located on Rankin Boulevard Ext. in Tupelo, Mississippi, was searched pursuant to a federal warrant. The search team removed drain traps from two rooms within the building, and they also took swabs from several locations within the building. These items were tested by FBI personnel at NBFAC. Tests performed on removed items preliminarily tested positive for the presence of ricin. The preliminary tests were subsequently confirmed as to five o f six items submitted: (1) the mask from the trash pull, (2) liquid removed from a drain in the dojo, (3) a swab taken from inside the dojo, (4) another swab taken from inside the dojo, and (5) one trace filter, that is items vacuumed from the floor ofthe dojo.

    • DXer said

      26. Also, on April 24, 2013, agents obtained records indicating that DUTSCHKE ordered castor bean seeds utilizing eBay and paid for the seeds via PayPal. Specifically, DUTSCHKE paid for 50 red castor bean seeds on or about November 17,2012. He made a second purchase of 50 red castor bean seeds on or about December 1,2012. United States Postal Service records confirm that the order paid for on December 1,2012, was mailed on December 3,2012, and delivered to DUTSCHKE’s South Canal Street residence on December 5,2012. I understand that the number ofcastor beans ordered is more than sufficient to extract the quantity ofricin found in the three letters.

    • DXer said

      Not a good day for wives, to be sure.

      27. In the course ofthe investigation FBI agents obtained, pursuant to legal process, a series ofhistorical text messages between the cellular number for DUTSCHKE’s wife, and a cell phone alsosubscribedtobyDUTSCHKE’swifeandusedbyherson. Inthetextexchangewhichtook place on Saturday April 20, 2013, the person using the wife’s cell phone sent messages to “get a fire going” because “we’re coming over to burn some things.” When asked what was being burned, the individual using the wife’s phone replied, “my paperwork and personal bills.”

      28. Pursuant to legal process, agents obtained further historical texts from the cellular phone subscribed to by DUTSCHKE’s wife. In another exchange from Saturday April 20, 2013, someone using the wife’s cellphone texted a second cell phone with a (662) area code, believed to be a friend of DUTSCHKE’s wife, stating, “we are gonna clean house,” “you still need to come clean,” “search is on. Call [another person]’s cell.” The wife’s cell phone was also used to text DUTSCHKE’s cell phone, stating, “cameras goneT’ and “searching school I’ll bet as well.” I believe the word “school” is a reference to DUTSCHKE’s Taekwondo dojo.

    • DXer said

      29. On April 26, 2013, document examiners employed by the FBI Laboratory had examined one third of approximately 400 documents seized in the search of DUTSCHKE’s residence and trash pull. The ongoing examination has found that numerous printed documents bear the same corresponding “trashmarks” as the three ricin letters sent to President Obama, Senator Wicker, and Judge Holland.

  16. DXer said

    ricin investigation update:

    04/30/2013 9 MOTION to Unseal Document by USA as to James Everett Dutschke. (wsm)
    04/30/2013 10 ORDER granting 9 Motion to Unseal Document as to James Everett Dutschke (1) Signed by S. Allan Alexander on 4/30/13. (wsm)

    • DXer said

      MOTION TO UNSEAL

      Comes now the United States of America by and through its attorney for the Northern District ofMississippi, and moves the Court to unseal the AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF CRIMINAL COMPLAINT and all court entries and documents regarding the entry of the above affidavit and any search warrant, application and affidavit upon which a return has been received by the Court. The concerns set forth in our Motion To Seal have been addressed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The building has been sealed and is secure. The defense has no objection to this Motion.

      The interests ofjustice would be served by unsealing the AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF CRIMINAL COMPLAINT and any search warrant, application and affidavit upon which a return has been received by the Court and all court entries and documents pertaining the same, including any docket entries along with this Motion To Unseal and Order To Unseal.

      ORDER TO UNSEAL

      The government has moved to unseal the Affidavit In Support Of Criminal Complaint and any application, affidavit or search warrant upon which a return has been received by the Court and all court entries and documents regarding them, including any docket entries.

      Having duly considered the motion, the court concludes that it is well taken. It is ORDERED that the Clerk of Court unseal the Affidavit In Support Of Criminal Complaint and any application, affidavit or search warrant upon which a return has been received by the Court and all court entries and documents regarding them, including any docket entries.

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  17. DXer said

    A Temporary Detention Order has been entered in the ricin investigation as to James Everett Dutschke.

    The order states:

    Having conducted an initial appearance in this cause, and being advised that the government is seeking a detention order in this cause, the Court finds that the defendants shall be remanded to the custody of the United States Marshal’s Service for temporary detention pending a preliminary and detention hearing before United States Magistrate S. Allan Alexander on May 2, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. in Oxford, MS.

    SO ORDERED, this the 29th day of April, 2013. /s/ S. Allan Alexander

    Recent docket entries:

    04/29/2013 Oral MOTION to Seal Affidavit until 9:00 a.m. on 5/2/13 by USA as to James Everett Dutschke. (wsm)

    04/29/2013 Text ORDER granting [] Motion to Seal Affidavit as to James Everett Dutschke (1)until 9:00 a.m. on May 2, 2013.Signed by S. Allan Alexander on 4/29/13. (wsm)

  18. DXer said

    The “Conspiracy Theory” That Prompted Kevin Curtis’ Earlier Letters to Politicians
    By: Jim White Wednesday April 24, 2013 9:38 am
    Yesterday, charges against Paul Kevin Curtis that he sent letters testing positive for ricin to Senator Lowell Wicker and the White House were dropped. It is quite encouraging that the FBI would this time choose not to continue harassing Curtis once they realized they had no evidence against him, unlike their behavior in the Amerithrax case where they pursued Steven Hatfill for years (until paying out a $2.8 million dollar settlement) and drove Bruce Ivins to his grave on the basis of evidence that couldn’t withstand scrutiny.

    http://www.emptywheel.net/tag/bruce-ivins/

    • DXer said

      UPDATE: Dutschke hearing slated for Thursday in Oxford
      byPatsy R. Brumfield / Daily Journal

      OXFORD – J. Everett Dutschke, accused of sending poison-laced letters to President Obama and others, appeared briefly in federal court today wearing orange jail garb and chains.

      His initial hearing was re-set for 9 a.m. Thursday before Magistrate Judge S. Allan Alexander.

      Dutschke, a 41-year-old Tupelo man active in martial arts and politics, will be charged with conspiring and possession of a biological weapon to threaten officials.

      The official paperwork is sealed, but likely will be unsealed later today, said prosecutor Chad Lamar, assistant U.S. attorney.

      Today, Dutschke was represented by public defender George Lucas.

      ***
      Dutschke, who has maintained his innocence in the case, responded briefly to a couple of the judge’s questions today, saying he had only briefly had time to look at the federal charges against him.

      Magistrate Alexander will hear government evidence against Dutschke on Thursday and decide whether to bind the case over to a grand jury to consider whether to indict him.

      Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – UPDATE Dutschke hearing slated for Thursday in Oxford

      http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22402893/article-UPDATE–Dutschke-hearing-slated-for-Thursday-in-Oxford?instance=home_news_right

  19. DXer said

    Saving Kevin Curtis: Legal duo, client bask in media spotlight after hard fight to free him

    http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22352442/article-Saving–Kevin-Curtis–Legal-duo–client-bask-in-media-spotlight-after-hard-fight-to-free-him?instance=popular

    In Amerithrax, Hatfill’s attorney has proved himself a star more than once — against the same Amerithrax prosecutor Kenneth Kohl. Once in Amerithrax and then in Blackwater.

    Dr. Ivins’ attorney, Paul Kemp, also effectively presented Dr. Ivins case — although he never had a real chance because Dr. Ivins never even was charged.

    Attorney Paul Kemp: the FBI investigation revealed no evidence against Ivins because he was not guilty

    Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 3, 2011
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/attorney-paul-kemp-the-fbi-investigation-revealed-no-evidence-against-ivins-because-he-was-not-guilty/

    Paul Gordon reacts to Paul Kemp’s speech … if the FBI could do this to Dr. Bruce Ivins, they can do it to any of us

    Posted by Lew Weinstein on June 9, 2011
    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/paul-gordon-reacts-to-paul-kemps-speech-if-the-fbi-could-do-this-to-dr-bruce-ivins-they-can-do-it-to-any-of-us/

    • DXer said

      Mr. Dutschke prudently taken down his videos on Holland etc. In his 2007 campaign, he appears to have nowhere addressed the merits in a very nasty political campaign in which he misrepresented Mr. Holland’s statements (for example, by creative editing).
      In 2008 he ran unsuccessfully for some office as a democrat.

      At the same time, now Paul Curtis’ counsel should get him to shut up about missing organs. He instead should be marshalling evidence that supports his version of the past half decade. Given material discrepancies in their descriptions of email exchanges, one of them appears to be getting his facts wrong.

      Speaking to the media or to investigators without counsel is often a fine idea if you are both innocent AND you take scrupulous care to get your facts right.

      http://www.youtube.com/user/dustypma/videos?view=0

      • DXer said

        Here are some different videos. They are on a different channel.

        http://www.youtube.com/user/dustytkd

        And here is a well-spoken, reasonable discussion of merits by Dutschke in his campaign against Mr. Holland — focused on Mr. Holland’s votes in favor of additional fees and taxes. Mr. Holland was the incumbent – for a quarter century.

      • DXer said

        http://wreg.com/2013/04/24/how-the-fbi-went-after-the-wrong-man/
        How the FBI Went After The Wrong Man In Ricin Case
        Posted on: 4:04 pm, April 24, 2013, by Dennis Turner,

        It became clear, the FBI agent testifying got very uncomfortable when defense attorneys began pointing out weaknesses in the government’s investigation.
        Searches of a home belonging to Curtis turned up nothing, and even some of his alleged targets had doubts.
        ”He’s written me letters over time, mostly in support of ideas that I’ve had. He’s always been a big letter writer, a guy who’s involved in the political process and wanted his opinions expressed and I always welcomed people like that,” said Steve Holland who ran against the new suspect in the case, Everett Dutschke, and took a lot of criticism.
        Holland’s mother, a justice court judge, got one of the ricin letters.
        ***

        “Freeman, who investigated Germany’s Baader-Meinhof and Black September terrorist groups warns us to get ready for more investigations like this, ”That kind of offends the sensibilities sometimes for Americans, but this has been going on in other countries for many, many years and we’ll see more of these type strikes, I believe in the future.”

        He warns, the pressure to arrest first and investigate later, is intense, but standard in terrorist cases.”

        http://wreg.com/2013/04/24/family-of-ricin-target-still-has-questions/
        Family of Ricin Target Still Has Questions
        Posted on: 4:08 pm, April 24, 2013

        Steve Holland describes Dutschke as always opinionated and pushy, ”I saw him, maybe, during that campaign, 4 to 6 times and he was always very invigorated, always attacking me, always on the defensive about everything.’
        The attacks went on until, as Holland puts it, Dutschke’s election bid went “down like the Titanic.”
        Despite Dutschke’s run-ins with the Holland family during the campaign, nothing ever ended up in court, either State of Federal.
        Holland says his mother is widely loved and respected, a pioneer in every sense of the word, with a work ethic that would shame a 20-year-old, even though she’s 80.
        He says his mother’s been put off by an abundance of media attention and would just like everything to go away, ”I’d just about as soon jump into a bed of cobra snakes as have to put up with this. I’m very tired of it”.

      • DXer said

        James Everett Dutschke arrested in connection to ricin letters case

        Tupelo Insurance agent Jack Curtis, brother of Kevin Curtis and former employer of Dutschke, said Saturday morning he was interested in seeing any evidence authorities collected related to the new arrest.

        “If they have the evidence, let the chips fall where they may,” Jack Curtis said. “I hate to speculate on anyone’s guilt until the evidence comes out, but it would further vindicate my brother.”

        Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – James Everett Dutschke arrested Tupelo Police say
        http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22379067/article-James-Everett-Dutschke-arrested–Tupelo-Police-say?instance=home_news_right

      • DXer said

        While Rep. Rush Holt beat IBM’s “Watson” at Jeopardy, Everett Dutschke, judging by this December 2012 post, reports that he “created a machine that will save the world from the Mayan Apocalypse.” The catch was that he needed donations immediately before it can be turned on before December 21st. “It has additional Zombie protection.” He adds: “Feel free to thank me (via donation) on Dec 22nd.”

        https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/ePGee

        Created by Everett Dutschke

        I created a machine that will save the world from the Mayan Apocalypse. If you donate NOW, we can afford to turn it on December 21st. – It has additional Zombie protection. Feel free to thank me (via donation) on Dec 22nd

        Everett Dutschke
        I created a machine that will save the world from the Mayan Apocalypse. If you donate NOW, we can afford to turn it on December 21st.
        It has additional Zombie protection.
        Feel free to thank me (via donation) on Dec 22nd
        Like ·Comment ·Give ·December 19, 2012

        I presume Mr. Dutschke intended the post to be humorous rather than an attempt to raise defense funds.

      • DXer said

        “Martial arts instructor charged with attempted use of biological weapon”

        “A Mississippi martial arts instructor arrested early on Saturday was charged with possession of the biological agent ricin and with attempting to use it as a weapon, the U.S. Department of Justice announced.”

        “If convicted, Dutschke faces maximum possible penalties of life imprisonment, a $250,000 fine and 5 years of supervised release.”

        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ricin-letter-arrest-20130427,0,2437500.story

    • DXer said

      Turning to the web archive for Mr. Dutchke’s TellTupelo.com, we can see that on May 3, 2008, Mr. Dutschke posted about his “friend and honorary Black Belt Mike Huckabee.” Mr. Huckabee would be a fun interview on the subject.

      http://web.archive.org/web/20090127022727/http://telltupelo.com.hosting.domaindirect.com/

      Friday, April 25, 2008

      Join Me and my friend Mike Huckabee for Breakfast!
      Next Saturday, May 3rd, I hope you’ll make plans to join my friend and honorary Black Belt Mike Huckabee for a campaign breakfast in Tupelo as we rally to win the 1st Dist House seat.
      I’ll keep you posted on the details as they are worked out.

      J Everett Dutschke

      Jamie Franks
      Tonight I had a chance to have a long conversation with Jamie Franks at the Karate school.
      I wont go reveal everything that we talked about, but hedid flatly state to me is that he will be seeking chairmanship of the State Democrat party!

      I forgot to ask him, since we covered so much, if he will be the kind of chairman that kicks out Conservatives.
      11:34 pm cdt

      Also it would be interesting to learn whether President Obama’s healthcare proposal caused Mr. Dutschke to lose his livelihood as he feared.

      “Tuesday, June 3, 2008

      Fired by Barack Hussein Obama
      I guess I should look for another job since Barack Hussein Obama is going to heal all the sick and save us all.

      His universal health care will insure that there is no place for a health insurance agent like me.

      Oh well… Barack Hussein Obama will take care of me. He will heal the sick… heal the planet… and civilization finally has a chance to survive…

      I have helped almost a thousand families get their affairs financially in order. But with our new savior, Barack Hussein Obama will see it fit to can me.

      Maybe I can go back into radio…
      11:44 pm cdt”

    • DXer said

      Paul Curtis has two attorneys. One, the former FBI supervising agent for the Oxford office, had a long-running feud with the former U.S. Attorney.

      http://oxfordeagle.com/2012/01/fbi-agent-files-suit-against-former-u-s-attorney/

      FBI agent files suit against former U.S. Attorney

      Philip “Hal” Halbert Neilson, the former FBI supervising agent for the Oxford office, has filed a suit in the Circuit Court of Lafayette County against retired U.S. Attorney Jim Greenlee, claiming Greenlee did everything in his power to “destroy” Neilson while he was in office. (January 6, 2012, Page 2A)

      Mr. Neilson had been indicted but was acquitted.

      Patsy Brumfield writes about bad blood between Hal Neilson and Jim Greenlee
      http://nmisscommentor.com/law/patsy-brumfield-writes-about-bad-blood-between-hal-neilson-and-jim-greenlee/

      “Patsy Brumfield has an interesting gloss on the Hal Neilson indictment– that there are hints that it is part of a personal issue between Neilson and Greenlee about an issue on which Neilson sought whistleblower status. FBI Agent Hal Neilson of Oxford, whose indictment became public Thursday, asked the Department of Justice for whistleblower protection a couple of years ago after accusing the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Oxford of wrongdoing.”

      Comment:

      In Amerithrax, Hatfill recruited Attorney Connolly, a former DOJ attorney himself, to go to war with the Department of Justice. (Mr. Connolly had no feud with the DOJ; if anything, his contacts gave him insight into the dubiousness of the Hatfill Theory). DOJ ended up settling for millions of dollars.

      Mr. Connolly then later obtained dismissal of a murder indictment in the Blackwater matter — in a case involving Amerithrax AUSA Ken Kohl — on the grounds of prosecutorial misconduct.

      Here, in the ricin mailings case, probable cause existed for Mr. Curtis’ arrest. Mr. Curtis’ female attorney emphatically praised the good faith and professionalism demonstrated by the DOJ prosecutors and investigators.

      New information, however, was deemed to warrant dropping of the charge. One small bit of new information we know about is that there was indented writing on two of the envelopes that included Mr. Curtis’ two old addresses — with the street address of one spelled wrong. Handwriting comparisons have been done as to that indented writing. We also know that based on evaluation of the results of the search there was nothing found yet to add to the fact that Mr. Curtis’ long-time signature phrase was used, the threatening message had started with the title of his manuscript etc. Anyone would have had access to his online signature — it would have been decidedly against his interest, however, to use such a signature in sending a dangerous substance.

      Both of Mr. Curtis’ attorneys have demonstrated the valuable role that defense counsel can play — as was also demonstrated by Connolly and Kemp in the Amerithrax investigation.

      Sometimes the wheels of justice grind even more slowly where the target commits suicide and prosecutors and investigators, afraid of getting in trouble, then choose to close the case.

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  20. DXer said

    Jack Curtis seeks answers related to ricin mailings
    byRobbie Ward/NEMS Daily Journa
    http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22364375/article-Jack-Curtis-seeks-answers-related-to-ricin-mailings?instance=home_news_2nd_left

    Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – Jack Curtis seeks answers related to ricin mailings

    Between checking messages on Facebook, reading the latest national news stories about his brother and Dutschke, a former employee, and answering questions from friends, Curtis still wonders how things will unfold.

    “He was never a problem here,” Jack Curtis said on the phone to someone asking about Dutschke, a rival of Curtis’ brother and a current person of interest related to the poison-laced letters investigation. “He was a genius.”

    Jack Curtis recalled the outgoing, smart and Republican-leaning Dutschke working at his office for more than a year, until Curtis retired from a larger insurance company and began working for himself.

    While he can’t recall whether he donated cash or materials to his former employee’s state House of Representatives political campaign to unseat Steve Holland, who is Judge Sadie Holland’s son, Jack Curtis said he wanted to support Dutschke’s efforts.

    Jack Curtis doesn’t believe his brother would have been capable of producing ricin, a produced from castor beans, and said he never believed that he was guilty of the crimes. However, Jack released a statement on behalf of his family on the day of Kevin’s arrest saying how they’d struggled to help him cope with bipolar disorder.

    With Kevin released from jail and making media rounds telling his side of the story, Jack Curtis said he’ll explain to his brother when things settle down why he made public Kevin’s medical struggles.

    “I was trying to help him legally,” Jack Curtis said Thursday. “And it’s the truth. I was afraid he was going to be railroaded by the government.”

    Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – Jack Curtis seeks answers related to ricin mailings

    Comment:

    In Amerithrax, the contemporaneous emails and lab notes and other documents — along with the forensics (and there were none that implicated Dr. Ivins) — are far more important than the conclusory assertions and spin being offered by investigators, prosecutors and commentators.

    Here, too, the emails to and from Mr. Dutschke and Mr. Curtis are the most probative evidence relating to their feud. Presently, there are discrepancies in the stories being told. It is in the interest of the party that the emails favor — whoever that is — to release them to the public.

    At the end of the day, hyperbole and cool confidence will not be a substitute for the contemporaneous records that support — or do not support — the party’s offered narrative.

  21. DXer said

    In a good recap of the feud, Daily Beast adds this additional tidbit about email in January 2013. In Amerithrax, USAMRIID has uploaded thousands of Dr. Ivins emails. Produced months, even years, after Dr. Ivins committed suicide, they contradicted the government’s spin at its press conference and in a summary. By the time the correspondence was produced, Dr. Ivins and the lack of support for the theory was buried and forgotten.

    http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

    Paul Kevin Curtis and J. Everett Dutschke: Epic Feud and Ricin Letters
    by Winston Ross Apr 25, 2013

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/25/paul-kevin-curtis-and-j-everett-dutschke-epic-feud-and-ricin-letters.html

    By the time Dutschke got arrested in January, the two pretty much hated each other electronically. When Curtis learned the news, he emailed Dutschke, Laura tells The Daily Beast:

    “How’s it feel to be on that side?” the email read. On a completely unrelated YouTube video of Dutschke’s, Curtis wrote, “C U in court.”

    “Of course Everett went ballistic,” Laura Curtis says.

    That’s why, when the FBI came knocking at Laura Curtis’s door last week, she was convinced of two things: her ex-husband’s innocence and that he was framed. Kevin Curtis is nowhere near smart enough to figure out how to make ricin, she tells The Daily Beast.

    “Kevin would blow up half of Mississippi trying to make something like that,” she says. Plus, he’s not a violent person. “He’ll send you a thousand emails, but he’s never going to cause you harm.”

    (Lest you worry that this comment might offend her ex-husband, he told Piers Morgan on CNN Tuesday night that when the FBI first told him what they thought he’d done, he responded, “I don’t even eat rice!”)

  22. DXer said

    Those who have long followed Amerithrax may remember when Steve Hatfill was thought to have gone “missing” – as Mr. Duschke now has in the ricin letter investigation. (according to the AP and local reports).

    As I recall,Dr. Hatfill was just having some fun, coming to be frustrated by the conspicuous surveillance..

    Mr. Dutschke similarly has gone “missing” but given he has not been charged, it is of no legal significance.

    The FBI likely has a GPS locator on any vehicle he is using and can readily ping even his friend’s cell phone.

    Under the terms of his bond governing release on another charge, he is not allowed to go below Route 82 (south of Tupelo).

    So he likely will be found taking a break from an admittedly very stressful week and period of several months.

    In the meantime, the vehicles that were at the staging area at a nearby Baptist church presumably have moved to the cabin or residence of a friend that I do not think was occupied.

    Associated Press |

    Authorities in Mississippi say they are searching for the chief person of interest in the investigation of poisoned letters sent to President Barack Obama …

    Itawamba County Sheriff Chris Dickinson says he is helping the FBI, which told him Everett Dutschke had been under surveillance but slipped away on Wednesday.

    • DXer said

      Mr. Dutschke’s counsel confirms that his whereabouts are in fact known.

      The search of this new location, not occupied year-round, is reminiscent of the search of the famous cabin in Maryland that was the subject of so much excitement.

      The FBI needs to be allowed to go about their collecting of factual information and exploration of hypotheses without breathless headlines that only interfere with a reasoned exploration of potential leads.

      http://www.clintonnews.com/article/D0/20130425/NEWS/130425022/Ricin-probe-FBI-knows-whereabouts-Dutschke

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

      • DXer said

        The hunting cabin searched in connection with a Hatfill Theory — in Virginia rather than In Maryland I believe – was the subject of excitment upon report of the rumor that Dr. Hatfill had told a joke about cipro. His being on cipro was in fact later determined to be due to dental surgery.

        http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

      • DXer said

        In Amerithrax, when Dr. Hatfill would give the agents conducting surveillance the slip (or give them a chase), it may have motivated the agents. The Bureau, it’s been said, doesn’t like being embarrassed. In fact, when early on his counsel did not consent immediately to the search one Friday, it seemed to add fuel to the fire under a Hatfill Theory. By the time they did search there was a news helicopter overhead.

        OTOH, Dr. Ivins bent over backwards cooperating and then the FBI used every irrelevant but embarrassing fact in his background to cobble together a theory that made him look bad.

        And so there are no easy answers as to the best way to handle things under scrutiny.

        But turning on the tv and slipping out the back door is probably not wise — especially with other unrelated charges already pending.

        http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

        http://www.wtva.com/news/local/story/Everett-Dutschke-described-as-person-of-interest/ktKNbg1RA0CItleICQ1vug.cspx

        “They went inside the home on Twenty Mile Bottom, turned on the television, and left out the back door.

        Kitchens said they then got into a vehicle after walking through bottom land.

        Dutschke’s attorney informed the FBI where her client could be found.

        He appeared to arrive home on his own around 5:30 p.m. Thursday.”

  23. DXer said

    In Amerithrax, dozens of searches were conducted pursuant to a warrant — involving numerous different individuals. Those of us following the case remember well the dog and pony show that accompanied the raid on the home of a New York doctor named Berry as the federal authorities worked in good faith to explore the possibilities and narrow the field.

    By analogy, in the ricin mailing, “Itawamba County officials confirmed to Adam Armour of the Itawamba County Times that the FBI is preparing to search a home in the Ozark community in northwest Itawamba County. They are waiting on a search warrant.

    Itawamba County Sheriff Chris Dickinson said authorities have been in the area since last night. A man outside the home identified himself to the Daily Journal as the owner and said his name is Melvin Kitchens of Pontotoc. He said his grandson was a former karate student of J. Everett Dutschke. Melvin Kitchens said his son is Kirk Kitchens. Melvin Kitchens said the home in Itawamba County is a weekend residence he goes to visit.

    “I don’t why they are here,” Melvin Kitchens said. “This is a wild goose chase.”

    Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – Federal agents are preparing to search an Itawamba residence
    http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22352426/article-Federal-agents-are-preparing-to-search-an-Itawamba-residence?instance=home_news_right

    http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  24. DXer said

    From Laced Letters to Terror Attacks, This Feels a Lot Like 2001
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/from-laced-letters-to-terror-attacks-this-feels-a-lot-like-2001-20130417

    Tom Daschle, who was then the Senate Majority Leader, received one of those anthrax letters in 2001 and watched multiple members of his staff infected and placed on emergency doses of cipro, a powerful antibiotic effective against anthrax. In his book, Like No Other Time: The Two Years That Changed America, the South Dakota Democrat wrote that he also interpreted the initial anthrax letter as a sign that al-Qaida’s “next phase had begun, that they were out to prove they could attack us whenever and wherever they chose.” And that was before the white powder flew out of a letter from the “4th Grade. Greendale School, Franklin Park. New Jersey.”

    Coincidentally, the man who calmly oversaw Daschle’s office’s response to that attack was Pete Rouse, who was then his chief of staff and today is a senior adviser to Obama.

    Another man living through this a second time is Tim Mitrovich. Then a Daschle staffer, he was standing next to the intern when the anthrax letter was opened. He was one of 23 Daschle aides exposed and placed on Cipro.
    In his only interview on the incident, Mitrovich told Copley News Service in 2001 that key to the response was everybody following procedure. “They said someone had just opened a letter with white powder in it,” he recalled then. “My initial thought was it was a hoax. But not knowing, we all followed protocol.” Within 30 minutes, the white powder had been field-tested and found to be positive for anthrax. Mitrovich and his coworkers were given nasal swabs and received their first doses of Cipro. Two days later, Rouse called Mitrovich at home to give him the bad news that he had tested positive for anthrax exposure.

    The treatment was effective. But Mitrovich, who still works for the Senate today, said the impact was powerful. “It’s changed my life in a lot of the same ways that Sept. 11 changed my life. You reevaluate your life, and you try and concentrate on the things that are most important to you.”

    http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  25. DXer said

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/usa-security-fbi-letter-poison-idINDEE93N0G220130424

    Factbox – FBI revisiting bioterror case lessons

    – BEWARE THE OBVIOUS – …

    – VERIFY, VERIFY, VERIFY – …

    – ASSESS DANGERS BEFORE ALARMING THE PUBLIC – …

    – AVOID POLITICAL PRESSURE –

    – APOLOGIZE AND MOVE ON –

    Factboxes – Ayman Zawahiri, Anwar Awlaki, Anthrax, and Amerithrax: The Infiltration Of US Biodefense

    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/ayman-zawahiri-anwar-awlaki-anthrax-and-amerithrax-the-infiltration-of-us-biodefense/

    http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  26. DXer said

    Absent finding forensic evidence, investigators face a difficult puzzle in both the ricin and the anthrax cases.

    Here is an ABC story on the ricin case.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-miss-man-investigated-ricin-case-19029411#.UXibj81cr5O

    Judge Holland has declined to comment on the case.

    ***

    She was presiding judge in a case in which Curtis was accused of assaulting a Tupelo attorney in 2003. Holland sentenced Curtis to six months in the county jail. He served only part of the sentence, according to his brother.

    Running as a Republican, Dutschke lost a lopsided election to Steve Holland in 2007, and observers say the judge publicly chastised Dutschke at a political rally that year.

    Brandon Presley, Mississippi’s northern district public service commissioner and a distant cousin of Elvis Presley, attended the 2007 political rally in Verona. He told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he remembers Dutschke giving a “militant” speech with personal and professional attacks on Steve Holland.

    Presley, also a Democrat, said he doesn’t recall details of the speech — just the tone of it, and the crowd’s reaction.

    “I just remember everybody’s jaw dropping,” Presley said.

    Dutschke said his speech included sharp criticism of Steve Holland’s record in public office.

    Steve Holland said earlier this week that his mother made Dutschke get down on his knees at the 2007 rally and apologize. On Wednesday, he said he was mistaken about her telling Dutschke to kneel.

    “She just got up and said ‘Sir, you will apologize,” Steve Holland said.

    Dutschke said Steve Holland exaggerated the incident. Presley said he remembers Judge Holland chastising Dutschke.

    Presley said of the judge: “I don’t believe the woman has an enemy in the world…. I don’t know anybody who doesn’t love Ms. Sadie Holland, except whoever this fool is who sent the letter. Whoever it is, they ought to be ashamed of themselves, picking on Ms. Sadie.”

    Dutschke — who unsuccessfully ran as a Democrat for Lee County election commissioner in 2008 — told AP on Tuesday that he has no problem with Sadie Holland. “Everybody loves Sadie, including me,” he said.

    • DXer said

      Holland said his mother has been trying to go about her daily routine and ignore the hoopla, saying he saw her driving a tractor home about sundown one night this week. Instead of talking about investigation, Holland said his mother wanted to talk about planting new grass in the family graveyard.

      “She’s fiercely independent, unbelievable independent,” Holland said. “Mother doesn’t want the FBI or anyone else here,” he said.
      “She just wants life back to normal.”

      Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Ricin-laced-letters-leading-to-a-Miss-mystery-4462377.php#ixzz2RT0jC7Du

      Comment:

      While I have no idea who mailed the ricin letters — it is a very interesting puzzle — I believe the case will be solved so long as they have been able to cast a sufficiently wide net in obtaining and cloning the hard drive of computers. In Amerithrax, if they had cloned the laptop that was in Dr. Ivins’ B3, they would have had contemporaneous evidence of goings-on in that lab. The laptop had been installed in July of that summer and had access to the internet. The forensic examination of the computers in the B3 was incredibly important but the FBI made any disclosures on the subject — such as what webpages were searched and the time they were accessed. It was the B3 where the largest repository of Ames in the country was known to be kept. Its contents should have been preserved. Was it? What happened to that laptop? Weren’t copies pf all the computers in Building 1412 and 1425 kept?

      In the ricin matter, a deep forensic examination of the contents of the computers here are being involved — and will be useful in many ways.

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

    • DXer said

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/us/ricin-case-reveals-a-strange-rivalry.html?_r=0

      Tidbit:

      When he made his first court appearance earlier this year [Mr. Dutschke] signed his appearance papers with a smiley face, said James Moore, a prosecutor in Tupelo.

      Comment:

      As background to the colorful story of each of these two men, in the 2007 election, Mr. Holland greatly outspent Mr. Dutschke. A majority of the contributions came from medical-related donors. Mr. Dutschke thus understandably would not want to print the body parts story. As it was, in 2007, he had contributed about 40% of his election while Mr. Holland had something like $89,000 in donations, much of it from local businesses.

      On the body parts story, which has not been addressed, it has never been explained why Mr. Curtis thought that something illegal was being done. Body parts in a morgue is not evidence of wrongdoing — that could not be judged without knowing the authorizations. The person cleaning the morgue would not be in a position to know that. Moreover, it is totally wrong for someone cleaning a morgue to think it is okay to open a refrigerator and go looking for a Dr. Pepper.

      In the Amerithrax case, with respect to the issue of 52 rabbits killed in Dr. Ivins lab that first week in October 2001, a former bioweaponeer Serge once told me it would not be uncommon for dead animals to be bagged and stored temporarily in a freezer. Thus, it is not clear that the autoclave necessarily had to be run daily at the end of the day. A hospital spokesman says that the center was not paid for body parts — but was obligated to honor the requests of organ donors. The spokesman has said that as a matter of policy body parts were promptly shipped but all of us have had the experience of having something to ship where we then delayed in seeing it out the door. Indeed, on some days, mail does not even go out.

      A fascinating aspect of the ricin mailing case is the indentation on two envelopes of Mr. Curtis’ past addresses — with one of the streets addresses spelled wrong. It would be reasonable for FBI investigators to credit based on that indented writing that someone was trying to frame Mr. Curtis.

      On the other hand, iIn the “Law and Order” fictionalized episode, a final twist at the end might have someone being framed for framing someone. They will be able to check past writings to see that Mr. Curtis knew how to spell the street he once lived on.

      Of course, the state court judge might have a long list of enemies in light of the court cases she handles. One side often is very unhappy with the result.

      The deep forensic examination of the computers likely will resolve the numerous factual discrepancies creeping into the stories being reported about the feud. Moreover, the feud between these two men may turn out to be irrelevant altogether if it turns out the mailer is someone else entirely.

      In Amerithrax, there was nothing in the thousands of emails that incriminated Dr. Bruce Ivins. To USAMRIID’s great credit, the thousands of emails eventually were uploaded to the FOIA reading room.

      While theories based on mental instability have surface appeal, a deep examination of documents often serves to establish the facts,

      In the ricin case, the man was arrested and the charges quickly dropped. In Amerithrax, they did not even have grounds to arrest Bruce Ivins. They had to withhold the documents about the 52 rabbits in order to create a false narrative about him having no reason to be in the lab. The DOJ then avoided the narrative being contradicted by shredding the depositions of his assistants.

      http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  27. DXer said

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/fbi-searches-everett-dutschkes-martial-arts-studio-in-ricin-case.php

    On Wednesday, FBI agents and members of the National Guard searched a martial arts studio in Tupelo, Miss., run by Everett Dutschke, the new focus of the investigation into the ricin letters, according to the Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal. The newspaper also reported Tupelo police were on the lookout for a green 1998 Dodge Caravan, which records show is the model of car owned by Dutschke.
    ___

    Mr. Dutschke’s group Dusty and the Robodrum has a lot of great music. They were doing regularly gigs each week until Mr. Dutschke’s legal troubles started.

    http://www.myspace.com/dustyandtherobodrum

    https://www.facebook.com/TheRoboDrum

    • DXer said

      Ricin probe: Dutschke found at Tupelo business after BOLO issued earlier
      Local Taekwondo instructor reappear at his dojo

      http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130424/NEWS/304240048/BOLO-issued-by-Tupelo-PD-Dutschke-s-van

      A statewide “be on the lookout” (BOLO) was issued this morning around 10:15 a.m. for a 1998 Green Dodge Caravan in relation to an FBI investigation. A copy of the BOLO obtained by the Clarion-Ledger gave the licence plate number and Dutschke’s name and address.

      The BOLO instructed officers if they saw the van to stop and hold for Tupelo Police Department. [Note: Tax records show Dutschke owns that kind of vehicle.]

      Comment: He is carrying his cell phone and so I presume they can track his whereabouts.

      • DXer said

        Mr. Dutschke is out on a $25,000 bond in connection with an earlier charge. One of the conditions is that he stay north of Highway 82.

      • DXer said

        Patsy Brumfield of the Daily Journal has made a very important contribution to the public’s ability to follow the facts of the case. Her efforts are much appreciated by those trying to follow the details.

        For those interviewing Mr. Curtis this week, the issue that would be nice to have answered is: why did he attach that news article to the email to the pastor?

        I have added some captions and dashes in presenting some of the highlights from her raw notes. See the original article for the passages I’ve omitted.

        UPDATE: Dutschke denies any involvement with ricin-letter plot
        byPatsy R. Brumfield / Daily Journal

        http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22318834/article-UPDATE–Dutschke-denies-any-involvement-with-ricin-letter-plot?instance=popular

        From a hearing in the Curtis matter, the transcript indicates that although the postmark is Memphis (the processing center in Tupelo was closed in late January), the codes across the back of the envelope specifically indicate that it was mailed from Tupelo.
        It was placed in the mail and collected by postal workers. Working to narrow down exact location.

        –They discussed IP addresses associated with Curtis’ Facebook. He typically accessed it from his residence.

        –“(Search of Corinth residence … ) JUDGE – (Asks about why two different IP addresses.) (Lamar – Could be two different modems.) Grant says one could be to computer, one could e for a telephone.)”

        –As to the testing of the ricin, according to the reporters notes, the FBI agent testifies that it
        “it is preliminarily testing as ricin, a crude form. Appears that someone took castor beans, put them in blender. Looks like sand. (Lamar – same as coffee bean grinder?) That would be a low-tech way to do that. Doesn’t require much science, to get ricin inside out.

        –(Weapons?) Yes. Two, being traced by ATF. One was 9mm and other a 380.

        — computer forensics

        Initially searched for “dirty word” search …. terms about ricin. All negative. Searched RAM .. with most recent searches. Now doing a deep dive. Preliminary… nothing yet. Shows were external hard drive and thumb drive plugged in and weren’t recovered.

        (Searches… for internet addresses from that computer. Google, Yahoo?) Yes, full diagnostic searches. One computer hadn’t been used for a while. (Recall saying on Friday … informed that “to see a wrong…. continuance” passage … not on his main FB site? Passage in the letter?) Yes. (Not prior to April 8 postmarking of letter?) ON that one site. (True now?) No, additional analysis. Quote appeared on his space on Internet. (Main FB site? Not there?) I don’t know. (But?) Found on other sites. (Also “I am KC” … signature?) Yes

        indentation on envelope –
        (Talked about indentions on outside of envelope to President and Sen. Wicker?) Yes. (Did you learn that another indentation found?) Yes. (Where?) What understand, on Holland letter. President – 202 Millford. Wicker – 109 Inez Drive. Holland – 109 Inez Dr. A former address.

        on social security disability –
        Social Security Admin letter to our office… says Curtis on SS benefits, which he admitted initially. (Disability?) Lists … headaches bipolar, back aches, head, neck. (When applied for SS for mental disability?) Dec. 29, 2009. Approved June 20… can’t make out what he’s saying] Nov. 30, 2012… went back about verification.

        (When interviewed Curtis, did you ask him … about SS?) Yes, office aware of some kind. He said over $700/month from headaches from motorcycle accident when he was 16. Not bipolar.. more from head and neck injuries. (Introduce Exhibit 6 into evidence.) MCCOY – NO OBJECTIONS.

        — on probation for intoxication

        (Aware now Curtis is on some kind of probation? Intoxication in Leeds, Ala.?) Yes, public intoxication matter. (How long on probation?) 24 months. (Date ?) Or not past May 2015. (When he was convicted … was he fined?) Yes, fine and court costs. (Information to … MCCOY – OBJECTION… CONTINUING LEADING OF WITNESS.) LAMAR – I am. Rules permit that. JUDGE – Try not to do that.

        (Did he pay fine?) Yes. A processing company received it. Two or three money orders. Most recent in March – $140. He wrote his name, address as 2503 Ewell Ave., Tupelo 38801. His mother and step-father’s. (Used throughout process?) Yes, listed as primary address. [Curtis is shaking head and talking to McCoy]

        Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – UPDATE Dutschke denies any involvement with ricin letter plot

        — correspondence with pastor (he should be asked about why he attached the article)

        (Lamar – [shows exhibit to McCoy] Shows document to Grant… email, seen before?) Yes. Email is correspondence between Curtis and … a church.. Rev. Mike HIcks at a local church in north MS…. Tupelo. (Summarize it?) From KC Justice for You, email address .. to several addresses including some to Curtis, others at St. Luke’s Church in Tupelo. When I read this … at bottom in 2003, Curtis approached Hicks to tell him about what occurred at NMMC … body parts, his wife. I don’t see his wife. Not allowed to give testimony. March 8, 2009, says to see message to Hicks. “He never answered me or called me.” Attached is an article about the killing of a pastor at an Illinois church.

        — difficulties
        (Lamar – I gave defense stack of copies to be copied. McCoy – We didn’t see this one. Lamar – I can’t say I gave her every one.) (Exhibit – did you or team ask questions about passage … about a Booneville police officer saying Curtis was investigated before? From Capitol Police report. Did you ask Booneville?) Yes, this exhibit. (Summarize?) Yes, various reports where Curtis is either complainant of subject of a complaint. Oct. 2008, report he pulled weapon from his waistband.. simple assault charge. Oct 2008, he complained against Mr Pardue for cyberstalking Sept. 2008, Curtis filed about garbage can through his window. Aug. 2008, Pardue against Curtis, cyberstalking. April 2008, Curtis complained about Crown Victoria in front of house and watching him. He called at least once or twice, say he’d taken photos of it. Nov. 2007, he and ex-wife disagreed after power was turned off. She asked him to leave, daughter called police with concerns.

        — correspondence with Dutschke

        (Lamar – exhibit, emails. Exhibit 10. Recognize?) Yes, obtained by court search of his residence. Emails between Curtis and … J. Everett Dutschke. Appeared to engaged in debate about who is the biggest liar, putting fake info on their websites. Appears all boiled over from earlier interaction… Dutschke perhaps agreed to publish or try to publish Curtis’ manuscript on Missing Pieces Talk about fake accounts, man up and be real men… Curtis family member tells Dutschke to leave Curtis alone. (Who do those people purport to be?) Ed and Elois …. his stepfather and mother. (Claim who they are?) Yes, Kevin’s parents.

        (Their response to Dutschke … ?) They say never know what’s going to show up on your doorstep, so just keep it up. (Exhibit 11 – what is that?) Document from search … appears to be a petition … for legislation to President, Senate, House, Gov. MS, Cochran, Wicker, Rep. Travis Childers – to regulate bones and tissues, to regulate organ harvesting in U.S. Discussion about the trade and urged them to take action … to make it illegal … before or after person’s death. Signed Nov 2006, by Curtis and others in Tupelo.

        [FYI – Dutschke ran against Rep. Steve Holland for the state House in 2004. Judge Sadie Holland is Rep. Holland’s mother.]

        — bipolar diagnosis and meds

        (Exhibit 12 – seen that before?) Reporting from ongoing matter… haven’t seen it except this. Daily Journal. Family is concerned about arrest, claims he suffers bipolar disorder and doesn’t take his medication. (Say he regularly medicates?) Says three years ago, convinced him to take meds. Says he doesn’t. (11:27)

        — housing dependent on receiving SS

        (Aware, aren’t you, that Curtis has secured housing?) Yes. (It is dependent on his receiving SS?) Yes.

        — more on letter to pastor and issue reason it was attached

        Ask about Exhibit 7 – purports to be an email … sent by Kevin Curtis?) My understanding. (To a church in 2003?) Yes, original sent 2003 … (This email 2009 – he complains about 2003 email?) Yes. (What bearing on this proceeding?) Shows Curtis holds on to things. Concerned me … when attach an article … he was upset, not allowed to give testimony. When attach 6 years later, an email back to same church … newspaper article about pastor being killed … causes us to evalutae whether this is a veiled threat. (Did you?) Yes, it’s ongoing. (Any information he has threatened anybody at St. Luke?) This is the only one, still investigating. (Email is very respectful?) Yes. More attachment of article, which has no bearing about his testimony about NMMC.

        (You said he has no bearing?) Article .. why would he send article about pastor being killed. Attached to email about wanting to give testimony. (Why?) I don’t know. (Is it possible that people at church death had some prior connection to St. Luke’s?) Perhaps. Just unusual manner of which email sent. Unusual. (Exhibit 8 – civil commitment proceedings by Laura Curtis …

        — lack of relevance of diagnosis of mood disorder

        (His mental state in question. Again, how does that make it more likely than not that he committed crime he is charged?) It doesn’t. Still conducting our investigation to obtain evidence to point to Curtis. (Agree that sane people commit crimes?) Yes. (Mentally ille?) Yes. (Do you ahve evidence that someone who suffered mood disorder is more likely to do something like this?) No.

        — more on computer forensics

        (You testified … had conducted prelim tests on computer at home?) Yes. (At this stage nothing to indicate searched for “ricin” or making of it?) At this time, Iv’e been informed … no information to suggest that. (You mentioned dirty-word search… it was negative?) Yes. (Deep dive planned… what will it show?) I’m not a computer person … terms may e wrong. But full forensics will show log-ins, websites, what’s been erased. How found out about hard drive we can’t find. (You said, hard drive and thumb drive… don’t hae it.) We have one thumb drive but understand there’s another one. Hardware plugged in that we have no access to

        Read more:Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal – UPDATE Dutschke denies any involvement with ricin letter plot

      • DXer said

      • DXer said

        “Elvis-impersonating former ricin suspect sings Randy Travis song on CNN”

        http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/24/elvis-impersonating-former-ricin-suspect-sings-randy-travis-song-on-cnn/

  28. DXer said

    It was a very low-grade preparation. Maybe 1%, I think. An agent said in an Affidavit that he speculated that the processor might have just tossed out the blender. Which might make evidence of castor pulp down the disposal the best bet. Perhaps they will find evidence that drain cleaner was used instead.

    But if it is true that the 3 letters on yellow paper were typed — which to me may suggest use of a typewriter rather than a computer and printer — that may be huge. I don’t think many people use or even own typewriters any more. Find the typewriter and the perp’s goose is cooked because upon magnification (say 200X) the typed font becomes distinctive.

    Given the money they are burning through in terms of manpower, maybe they could offer a reward so someone is motivated to say: “Oh, yeah, I sold a fellow a typewriter at a yardsale two weekends ago” for $5. Blenders are very common at thrift stores but typewriters, in my experience, are not. Many people have a blender in their closet that seemed like a good idea at the time but it turned out they never used.

    In their searches, the FBI is cloning the hard drives. If anyone is deleting records, the data will be recovered.

    The neat thing about email is that record of it exists on both ends — and on the server.

  29. DXer said

    The FBI used a mini throwable drone with a camera in their search for evidence relating to the preparation of ricin.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/blog/in_private/2013/04/reconrobotics-throwable-minibot-used.html

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