CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* The DOJ IG Can Call Harry Samit “Henry” If It Likes, But “Hero” Suits Him Better ; Harry Samit Suspected The Person Who Came To Bail Al-Attas Out ; The Man’s VIsa Card Was Used In Connection With WTC 1993 Bombing

Posted by Lew Weinstein on February 9, 2012

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  1. DXer said

    Greg Gordon in 2002 reported that Al-Hazmi had been identified by a repairman as in Menepta’s apartment on April 30, 2001. Does the repairman have contemporaneous documents corroborating the date as April 30 rather than April 1? Are there other corroboratory documents placing him in Norman on April 30? Ali helpfully pointed me some records but I have been distracted by other matters and didn’t turn to them. Where do other contemporaneous documents place Al-Hazmi on April 30? (as distinguished from May 1 when he seems to have been in Falls Church).

    Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)

    December 1, 2002, Sunday, Metro Edition

    What Moussaoui knows about 9/11 remains to be seen

    Greg Gordon; Staff Writer

    SECTION: NEWS; Pg. 1A

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    Moussaoui first embraced radical Islamic views in the mid-1990s while a graduate student in London. The indictment against him alleges he attended an Al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan in 1998.

    He is alleged to have met in Malaysia with an Al-Qaida operative in late 2000. On about Feb. 23, 2001, the indictment says, he flew to Chicago from London, carrying papers identifying him as a marketing consultant for a Malaysian company and declaring $35,000 in cash. He then flew to Norman, where he enrolled in the Airman Flight School for beginning lessons.

    Hussein al-Attas, a 23-year-old Saudi student at the University of Oklahoma who befriended Moussaoui at the local mosque and soon became one of his roommates, drove him to Minnesota in early August so he could take lessons in flying a 747 jumbo jet.

    Al-Attas was arrested along with Moussaoui because he had overstayed his student visa. He later pleaded guilty to seven counts of lying to federal agents and is being held as a material witness in the Moussaoui case.

    At the time of his arrest, Al-Attas told FBI and immigration agents that Moussaoui had quickly gained a reputation at the mosque for being a hard-liner who approved of martyrs and thought it was acceptable to kill civilians who harm Muslims.

    When an FBI agent asked Al-Attas whether he had ever heard Moussaoui make a plan to kill people who harm Muslims so he could be a martyr, Al-Attas replied that he may have, but that because he does not carry such violent thoughts in his own heart, he kept himself from understanding, according to the documents.

    ‘Fatwas’ online

    He also told agents that Moussaoui was overly secret, operating under the name “Shaqil” and refusing to reveal his true name. He said Moussaoui planned to travel to Colorado and New York later in the month. Al-Attas also said that he had seen Moussaoui reading various “fatwas” _ religious edicts _ on the Internet and that Moussaoui tried to persuade him to fight jihad, or holy war, to defend oppressed Muslims.

    Though Al-Attas initially told the FBI that Moussaoui had no friends in Norman, he later said Moussaoui did associate with other students from Muslim countries and was friendly with two instructors of Pakistani origin.

    Fellow mosque members defend Al-Attas as a soft-spoken, decent man, though he admitted lying to FBI agents several times, including in denying knowing Moussaoui’s name, in describing their plans to go to New York and about Al-Attas’ visit to a firing range.

    Majahid Abdulquaadir Menepta, a former roommate of Al-Attas’ and a friend of Moussaoui’s, traveled to Minneapolis after the arrests to post a $5,000 bond for Al-Attas. Minneapolis FBI agents were seeking evidence at the time to justify a national security warrant that would allow them to search Moussaoui’s laptop computer and belongings _ possessions later found to hold clues to the hijacking plot.

    When Menepta and Al-Attas returned to Oklahoma on Aug. 21, officials said, agents from the FBI’s Oklahoma City office went to the apartment Al-Attas and Moussaoui shared with Mukkarum Ali, knocked on the door and identified themselves. Several men scurried out the rear of the building before the agents could react. Gary Johnson, a spokesman for the FBI’s Oklahoma City office, declined to comment on the incident.

    Menepta later became a subject of the inquiry. In an FBI interview after Sept. 11, a maintenance man recalled doing repair work in Menepta’s former apartment on April 30, 2001. The repairman said several Middle Eastern men were present, among them Menepta and Nawaf Alhazmi, whom he identified from photos.

    Alhazmi had indeed been in Oklahoma while Moussaoui was still taking flight lessons there. A month earlier, on April 1, the soon-to-be-hijacker received a speeding ticket on Interstate Hwy. 40 near Clifton, Okla.

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    • DXer said

      Upon checking, I see Ali mentioned that Nawaf’s credit card was used at Fishing Island. That is in Alexandria, VA, I believe.

      But I would be interested in more detail about the repairman’s identification. Did he choose the photo from an array or was he shown the particular picture. (as they did in showing Dr. Hatfill’s picture around).

      Also, is he sure the date of his visit to the apartment was April 30 rather than April 1 when Nawaf got the speeding in Oklahoma about 40 miles away and heading in that direction?

  2. The redacted FBI 911 has the ATM data you’re looking for.

    On April 30th, al-Hazmi is fishing, at Fishing Island. Or at least, he uses his ATM card there. [Fishing gear was purchased at Walmart on 4/16]

    fbi911timeline106-210.pdf (at p. 138)

    http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline1-105.pdf
    http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline106-210.pdf
    http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline210-297.pdf

  3. DXer said

    This maintenance man places Nawaf Al-Hazmi in Menepta’s apartment in Norman on April 30, 2001.

    I am looking for docs that at least shows that, instead, on that date Nawaf Al-Hamzi, was in Falls Church, VA. (Nawaf reported his wallet stolen on May 1, 2001 in front of his residence in Falls Church but then didn’t follow up and declined to submit a report).

    The Bank of America Statement I have only goes to April 23, 2001. And I don’t pick him up traveling to Fairfield, CT until May 8, I believe.

    Are there really no records for Nawaf for the last half of April 2001 online? It seems that somewhere there should be a complete set of documents bearing on his whereabouts that would show he was not in Norman (although he got a speeding ticket 40 miles away on April 1, 2001 en route to Falls Church from Mesa.)

    Only contemporaneous documentation will serve.

    Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)

    December 1, 2002, Sunday, Metro Edition

    Majahid Abdulquaadir Menepta, a former roommate of Al-Attas’ and a friend of Moussaoui’s, traveled to Minneapolis after the arrests to post a $5,000 bond for Al-Attas. Minneapolis FBI agents were seeking evidence at the time to justify a national security warrant that would allow them to search Moussaoui’s laptop computer and belongings _ possessions later found to hold clues to the hijacking plot.

    Menepta later became a subject of the inquiry. In an FBI interview after Sept. 11, a maintenance man recalled doing repair work in Menepta’s former apartment on April 30, 2001. The repairman said several Middle Eastern men were present, among them Menepta and Nawaf Alhazmi, whom he identified from photos.

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