CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* The security guard explained that the keycard is used at the entrance of the building and the PIN is used at the keypad at B301 (the entrance to B3)

Posted by DXer on November 9, 2011




2 Responses to “* The security guard explained that the keycard is used at the entrance of the building and the PIN is used at the keypad at B301 (the entrance to B3)”

  1. DXer said

    Depositions in the Stevens v USA lawsuit make clear that the keypad was used to enter the entire suite. Blogger Ed L. has just been massively confused this past month and imagined the PIN to be entered at Rm. 313 rather than to get into Suite B3. It was like watching a two week train derailment. :0)

    This is from a January 26, 2011, deposition of Dr. Gerard P. Andrews in the Stevens v USA lawsuit (document 155-4):

    Q. Okay. And, I’m wondering if you can — I believe earlier you described one of those locations of the anthrax stock as being in a hallway.

    A. Yes.

    Q. Can you provide a bit more detail about where that’s located?

    A. The B3 cold room would be in the center of the B3 containment suite hallway. Approximately in the center.

    Q. Okay. And when you say it’s in the containment suite —

    A. Yes.

    Q. — would that be subject to any access controls, physical access controls?

    A. It would be subject to physical access controls up to entry of the containment suite. As far as other physical controls of the cold room itself, I — I don’t know.

    Q. Okay. So, when you say “access controls,” what would an individual have to do to gain access to that hallway?

    A. To the B3 hallway?

    Q. Yes.

    A. Well, he would have to badge in. So he would have to be magnetically keyed or, basically, given permission to go into the cold — a cold side hallway. He would then have to be keyed to be given permission to enter the cold side change room of the containment suite. And this was a magnetic key. He or she.
    But then once they’re in the cold side change room, they would change into the appropriate laboratory wear. In this case it would be colored scrubs.
    And then they would have to punch a personal access code that was issued to them by security once they were cleared for access into the containment suite.

    Q. And does that — do those controls apply to all of the preparations listed in the email at the top of Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 99?

    A. B313 hall freezer is — was — would be in the containment suite. B313 is laboratory within the — the containment suite as well as the B — B3 cold room.

    Q. So if I understand you correctly, then to access any of those, one would have to use their badge to enter the changing room and then use a key — or a personal access code to get farther in?

    A. Yes. Correct. Actually, three barriers. There’s a — there’s a hallway barrier that goes from the administrative area to the access cold side of the hall.
    And not everybody had their badges necessarily coded to enter that hallway from the adminstrative area.

    Q. I see. So only some —

    A. So there would be — so essentially three barriers. If a person was permitted to go into the BSL-2 laboratory, then they would be able to access the first barrier.
    The BSL-2 laboratory suite actually was at the very end of that hall.

    Q. Was there also a pressure pad that was somewhere within the containment suites?

    A. Yeah. There was. There was a foot pressure pad that was just inside the door — the first door of the cold side changing room where you had to card pass — mag card pass in.

    Q. What, if you understand it, was the purpose of that pressure pad?

    A. It would basically act as a — kind of a — a double — basically a check for someone physically entering a cold side change room, because they would be stepping on that pad.

    • DXer said

      Blogger Ed added to his massive confusion by interpreting and misrepresenting private emails — desperate to build on his baseless claim that the PIN was entered at Rm. 313 rather than upon entering the suite B3.

      In emails written by Dr. Ivins, Dr. Ivins explained, for example, that the guinea pigs would be challenged subcutaneously in the guinea pig room. Animals would be challenged after being moved from the “cold side” to the hot side and sometimes experiments needed to await room in the hot suite. Dr. Ivins explained that as many as 60 rabbits would fit in one room — which was an advantage of a parenteral (subcutaneous) challenge. It was the standard practice for animals to be acclimatized to BL-3 for a week before challenge. They were expected to arrive at Detrick the week of the 24th. They were challenged on or about October 2. See his October 5 email describing fatalities 3 days after challenge. Thus, for the entire time that prosecutor Rachel imagines him making a dried powder, he apparently was keeping company in B3 with 52 rabbits!

      Ed thinks it is 99% certain a first grader wrote the letter. This is too important a matter to suffer fools gladly.

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