CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* Between 1996 and 1999, CID investigated a matter where USAMRIID soldiers manufactured illicit drugs… These solders used a “hot suite” as their laboratory

Posted by DXer on April 18, 2011




One Response to “* Between 1996 and 1999, CID investigated a matter where USAMRIID soldiers manufactured illicit drugs… These solders used a “hot suite” as their laboratory”

  1. Zicon said

    Below are of thoughts, opinions and questions that I find to be interesting! With noted websites/material.

    I believe that some people out there have info, but don’t want to sit in jail for the rest of their lives for what they might have on hand or what they might know without explaining how they even came across the info in the first place, therefore the GAO should let the entire us public know if they do decide to open a secure portal for information to be submitted with no identifying marks what so ever on who sends anything to them, to help open this case back up or show important info that shows innocence or guilt etc etc. When this is all over with in my opinion, there will be one less government agency in the us if someone’s not careful.. Once the truth floats down to the surface and not clear coated by anal politics.

    Another thing that gets me is that Colonel Friedlander I think said somewhere that no one at the institute even knew how to make dry anthrax, as was found in the letters used in the attacks. Instead, he said, scientists there used wet anthrax, which is far easier to make. It is used in developing vaccines and testing their effectiveness.
    We haven’t had an offensive program for a long time,” Colonel Friedlander said. Nobody at the Army’s laboratory, he added, “has that kind of expertise.”

    Wish in one hand crap in the other see which one fills up first..

    ***Aside from the topic subject what was the outcome of the CID investigation on this matter?
    ***In my opinion I would call that an infiltration of bio-defense, so how many times has anything happened at USAMRIID that is considered infiltration or breach of national/biological security of any kind?…

    ***Has USAMRIID/Dugway/SRI/NDIA/DOD/DIA/Battel/Other Pharmaceutical Companies ever been Infiltrated? If so when/to what extent?

    I for one would like to see an exact number that could be confirmed… By the press or government….

    According to cc subject there was one known incident at USAMRIID in the late 90’s by solders, is there anything else that had happened at USAMRIID that would classify as a big mishap of Infiltration, along with SRI/CIA then along to all the other governmental agencies? Because since this is where the FBI is pointing their fingers at why not start with USAMRIID… and go from there.-.

    If I had to list in order of where to start from to look into first to 2nd and so on, my opinion would be *SRI, CIA, USAMRIID, Poron Down, Pharmacutical companies ( that ship drugs to the us gov.), Battel, Dugway…..
    There should be two categories of infiltration listings one listing any type of bio-agents, second listing information on governmental agencies, and pharmaceutical companies starting on the “East Coast.”
    I believe there needs to be a complete list compiled somewhere with a brief explanation of any and all infiltrations that has to do with anything of the us government. That way if there “are” any connections or something that stands out it’s possible that someone might see something that others do not.

    When was the last known time any of the above were ever infiltrated from present to over the past 10-20 years? That could perhaps show information on every location the us gov. sends/receives biological agents to/from that are/are not reg. with the Federal Gov./FDA/CDC/esp. the one that made the anthrax that R.M. Dir. of the FBI wouldn’t even answer, but should! One would have to believe that it’s eventually going to come out… I do..

    Also asking the same questions in the above paragraph for all other countries that have availability to biological agents/toxins of any kind…..?

    Also what types of infiltration and why? What are all the elements behind any infiltrations, if the answer is yes? Good/Bad/Circumstantial/Accidental/Deliberate/Covert etc. etc. etc.

    Another question is what about the studies that included electrostatic charges for adding coupling agents to the powder by the Army/Major Pharma’s/SRI/NWD/CIA/NSBDA..Is there any extensive public info that gets deep into this type of studies relating to it being done at any of the above?…

    Didn’t the Army/Gov. develop another strain of anthrax that where no pharmaceutical drug would even work as a cure with any anthrax exposure?
    Which brings the cost of Cipro down to pennies on the dollar, as in the past I believe that Cipro was sold in the us for around $600.00 for a 30 days supply of oral meds when it was first introduced and only pennies per pill in other countries for the exact same med… Doesn’t make any sense to me.. Why is that?
    From what I’ve heard the Army scientist worked closely with big pharmas…
    If another strain was developed by the us Army that does not react to Cipro as a slowdown or cure if caught in it’s early stages, then wouldn’t that eliminate the big pharmas money maker from billions down to nothing…?

    Didn’t Dr. Philip Zack get caught on camera entering the storage area where the Anthrax was kept without proper authorization?

    Question is, what are some companies/governments willing to do for billions of dollars in clear capital gains and show regular qtr earnings in the millions? How much is one life worth? Answer to that.. ( It is priceless ) No human being should die for any amount of money or drugs being produced by any government or pharmaceutical company EVER!

    Has anyone looked into the CIA operation Clear vision, and found anything worth noting?

    ***Also in my opinion I would like to see if someone could show proof that the us was playing with bio-weapons on the offensive, which I think in a very strong opinion could be done. If that is the case, who is going to have the balls enough to step up and show it without fear of it affecting their “personal health fund“… e.g. their future for themselves or their families etc… Which I believe very strongly is why the GAO should have a secure open portal eg, “TOPS” for information, so that if one does decide to send the GAO something, the sender can’t be traced at all, but have some type of secret code attached to it, that is implemented by the GAO somehow so that if more info does get sent in the future, and the GAO publicly ask a question, then the original sender could also perhaps answer their questions, and they know it got answered by the original sender… So that way the GAO would only know that their questions are getting answered by one anonymous source, or multiple sources that are still 110% completely anonymous…

    Along with the “Major Pharmaceutical companies” that make and send many things to the “Army” especially Pharmas on the east coast etc etc… I would be willing to bet (In my strong opinion) that some of the Pharmas websites look sooo legit…that they don’t even advertise or even disclose the fact publicly that some Pharmaceutical companies even make certain things for the Army esp. above a certain BS-Level.
    Makes one wonder….To see if some of the large major Pharmas will divulge what they, have, had, or can make secretly for the us government. In my opinion is definitely a very good start for anyone to look into.

    Also in my opinion with the electro-static silcon coupling agents added to any biological agent including anthrax that is sprayed into the atmosphere or in a double pole bomb that I’m highly guessing the Russians, US and others have/has extensive knowledge of and adding HUGE jolts of an electrostatic charge to silicon based/coated elements. So what would happen when the anthrax that has a coupling agent added to dried powder then in aerosol trials toss in some major voltage in the air produces what type of reaction?….

    Is it possible that they repel off one another and spread out 10+ times farther on a aero test therefore creating a wider diameter of contamination if released in high altitudes, eg.. 3000 plus feet above sea level, or other scenarios???


    Another site for further notation that ties into things is the (CBRN) aka. The United States Army Chemical Corps
    light reading below…

    Government officials have acknowledged that Army scientists in recent years have made anthrax in a powdered form that could be used as a weapon.
    (Referenced above statement from site below)
    If any country is caught making biological weapons including the us,
    doesn’t that violate the national treaty (BWC) that has been signed by many nations? Formulated in 1972, the treaty has been signed (as of June 2002) by more than 159 countries; 141 countries have formally ratified the BWC.
    Which can be noted from the site listed below…

    “Biological Weapons Convention (BWC).” World of Microbiology and Immunology. Ed. K. Lee Lerner and Brenda Wilmoth Lerner. Gale Cengage, 2003. 2006. 17 Apr, 2011

    Published online 25 February 2009 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2009.120
    Anthrax investigation still yielding findings
    Roberta Kwok
    Chemical composition of spores doesn’t match suspect flask. The deadly bacterial spores mailed to victims in the US anthrax attacks, scientists say, share a chemical ‘fingerprint’ that is not found in bacteria from the flask linked to Bruce Ivins, the biodefence researcher implicated in the crime.
    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) alleges that Ivins, who committed suicide last July, was the person responsible for mailing letters laden with Bacillus anthracis to news media and congressional offices in 2001, killing five people and sickening 17.

    Which was found at:


    The Sandia press release explains:

    Sandia is a multiprogram laboratory operated by Sandia Corporation, a Lockheed Martin company, for the U.S. Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration. With main facilities in Albuquerque, N.M., and Livermore, Calif., Sandia has major R&D responsibilities in national security, energy and environmental technologies, and economic competitiveness

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