CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* NAS: The FBI did not provide the NAS the data it needed regarding the overseas sample

Posted by DXer on February 15, 2011

8 Responses to “* NAS: The FBI did not provide the NAS the data it needed regarding the overseas sample”

  1. DXer said

    On positive PCR test of hijacker remains at USAMRIID:

    “USAMRIID personnel concluded that it was likely that the initial PCR results for the PA genee were due to DNA contamination, and that the positive PCR PA gene reslu for the tissue samples should not be interpreted as a positive detection of B. anthracis.

    Further details as to the performance characteristics of PCR assays will have to be obtained from USAMRIID personnel, ission of USAMRIID Command Staff.”

  2. DXer said

    “FBI / DOJ Responses to Questions Submitted by the Commitee on December 21, 2010”

    We appreciate the Panel’s interest in the overall conduct of the “OCONUS” investigation
    and specific scientific initiatives in particular. As the Panel is aware, much of the
    information pertaining to that portion ofthe investigation is particularly sensitive. As
    discussed at our meeting with Drs. Gast, Relman, and Mazza on November 19,
    2010, answers and any follow-up questions relating to the Law Enforcement Sensitive
    methods and means encompassing questions 14 – 23 will be discussed during the closed
    door session on January 14th. White it is our intention to be as thorough as possible in
    our responses to these questigns, we would ask for the Panel’s understanding that a small
    subset of information must be withheld to protect sensitive relationships with specific
    individuals, sources, and foreign govemments.

  3. DXer said

    http://med.stanford.edu/ism/2011/february/relman.html

    New review of anthrax case discussed by review committee vice chair, Stanford bioterrorism expert

    BY BRUCE GOLDMAN

    In 2001, a mystery perpetrator mailed a series of anthrax-laced letters to several locations, killing five people. In 2008, shortly after emerging as the prime suspect in an exhaustive investigation by the FBI, an Army microbiologist, Bruce Ivins, PhD, committed suicide. On Feb. 15, a National Academy of Sciences committee, charged in September 2008 with reviewing the scientific approaches used by the FBI in that investigation, released its report. The report said that the scientific evidence, while consistent with the law-enforcement findings, did not provide definitive proof linking anthrax in Ivins’ lab to the letters. David Relman, MD, vice chair of the review committee, is a professor of microbiology and immunology and of infectious diseases at the Stanford University School of Medicine. He answered the questions below from Bruce Goldman, a science writer in the medical school’s communications office.

    Q: Did your review uphold the FBI’s findings? Is this case still open?

    Relman:The main conclusion by the FBI and Department of Justice of their scientific investigation was that the Bacillus anthracis in the letters was derived from a flask called RMR-1029, which was located in the lab of Dr. Bruce Ivins at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Disease in Frederick, Md.

    We found that the FBI did a lot of things well — they reached out to some of the best scientists in the world, they executed a variety of scientific procedures in a very capable fashion, they helped to promote the nascent field of microbial forensics, and they dedicated considerable resources towards these goals.

    However, we also found some problems and gaps in the scientific investigation. Although the scientific evidence was supportive of a link between the letters and that flask, it did not definitively demonstrate such a relationship, for at least two reasons.

    First, the FBI was looking to match the anthrax strain in the letters to what existed in labs. But large-scale production of anthrax spores encourages the emergence of just the kind of mutant strains that were found in the anthrax letters. Since labs tend to save original isolates and may not save samples of large-scale production runs, it’s possible that the samples gathered by the FBI missed mutants that arose during such runs. This possibility was not given adequate consideration.

    Second, the FBI still might not have found other matches, because there’s no guarantee that the bureau had assembled a comprehensive library of lab strains: The repository of anthrax samples that the FBI created for comparison with the anthrax in the letters may not have been representative of all relevant anthrax stocks around the world. The newly revealed, but inconclusive, information about possible B. anthracis Ames at an al Qaeda overseas location highlights this issue.

    • Anonymous said

      “But large-scale production of anthrax spores encourages the emergence of just the kind of mutant strains that were found in the anthrax letters. Since labs tend to save original isolates and may not save samples of large-scale production runs, it’s possible that the samples gathered by the FBI missed mutants that arose during such runs. This possibility was not given adequate consideration.”

      I never knew Dr Relman was a true believing conspiracy theorist 🙂

    • DXer said

      A revision of this 440 page full and freely available narrative from May 2010 will be revised shortly incorporating the numerous NAS documents, a few of which have been discussed to date. The revision will also be fully available online — one just clicks to enlarge and then clicks to turn pages.

      ANTHRAX AND AL QAEDA: THE INFILTRATION OF US BIODEFENSE
      http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1443811

      At this URL there are 100 + graphics associated with the 440 pages of text. All are fully and freely downloadable in one fell swoop by clicking as indicated in the upper left corner where it says “DOWNLOAD ALL IMAGES.” They consist of documentary evidence supporting individual points in the text. My graphic artist whose 100+ graphics have appeared on this blog is on a well-deserved hiatus while I fully process the NAS documents. More than anything, we think the documentary evidence and the production of documents should be the focus. Government employees who withhold a full production of documents to the GAO do so at their peril. And if GAO is any good at what they do, and if they have any attorneys on their staff, they will appreciate that discovery of emails should be the priority. That, nowadays, is how people commonly communicate.

      Anthrax, Al Qaeda, Anwar Aulaqi and Ayman: The Infiltration of US Biodefense
      http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com

  4. DXer said

    Do rhe TIGR Progress Reports (pp. 221-458) discuss testing of the overseas sample in 2004?

  5. DXer said

    http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20110216/NJNEWS/102160328/Former-Gov-Thomas-Kean-Another-terror-attack-likely

    Former Gov. Thomas Kean: Another terror attack likely

    8:42 PM, Feb. 16, 201

    But some of the lessons underscored in the Sept. 11 commission report have not been heeded, Kean told Rutgers journalism students Wednesday.

    Kean’s visit was part of a project the students are working on to chronicle the impact of the attacks on Sept. 11 victims’ children.

    Among the lessons still to be learned, Kean said, are that intelligence agencies must do a better job of sharing vital information — an issue before the attacks — and avoid underestimating al-Qaida, whose operations have been disrupted as a result of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

  6. DXer said

    Scientists Cast Doubt On Anthrax Murder Probe

    Oxford woman was victim of deadly 2001 attack

    http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-anthrax-investigation-0216-20110215,0,4458653.story

    By DAVE ALTIMARI, daltimar@courant.com The Hartford Courant
    12:29 p.m. EST, February 15, 2011

    The report also reveals that FBI investigators and other intelligence organizations collected three separate samples of material from an overseas site believed to be run by Al Qaeda. The tests turned out to be negative but NAS officials said the information provided was “almost cryptic” and more details needed to be released including how the samples were collected and tested before drawing any definitive conclusions about whether Ames anthrax was present at the overseas site.

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