CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* emails to & from Dr.Bruce Ivins

Posted by DXer on April 7, 2010

The FBI’s case against Dr. Bruce Ivins has been demonstrated to be bogus. So what really happened? And why? I offer one “fictional” scenario in my novel CASE CLOSED, judged by many readers, including a highly respected official in the U.S. Intelligence Community, as “quite plausible.”

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12 Responses to “* emails to & from Dr.Bruce Ivins”

  1. DXer said

    He says there are things that he can’t talk about — unless he wants the FBI to show up and take him away in handcuffs.

    But how does that make sense?

    Any witness can talk about his grand jury testimony.

    Is he referring to matters that are classified?

  2. DXer said

    It was clear that they were focused on a small group of us at USAMRIID, one of which was Bruce.

    Of the 4 or 5 of us they were focused on, one of them was Bruce.

    In the third segment, Dr. Heine’s says we couldn’t talk about what we were questioned on. Prior to November 1, 2007 raid on his house, several days prior, he had just returned from a cruise and talking about what a great time he had on the cruise. He was talking about these two great women on the cruise — and Henry told him “Bruce, they are FBI agents.” Look, we can google can figure this out.

    Very conspicuous surveillance. Black suburbans parked on the ridge all weekend. Things taken out of glove compartment and left. He was told that Dr. Heine had turned him in (which, he explains, he was not true). He was thereby removed from his support structure and isolated. He was not allowed to go near him (per instruction to Ivins by Dr. Ivins’ lawyer). It was this pressure and isolation and $50,000 in legal fees ($68k, I think actually), he killed himself.

    Damn! If two wonderful FBI agents want to go on a cruise (and will pay their own way), how cool is that!

    • DXer said

      He says that under condition Delta, in the days after 9/11, not only would Dr. Ivins likely been checking on everyone’s animals, but he would have been on the internet.

      He raises the question, indirectly, why the FBI hasn’t produced the records from the Apple Computer from the hot suite or evidence of how he spent his time on the internet on those nights.

  3. DXer said

    He discusses how the government took things out of context of emails. Dr. H says a lot of the psychological stuff dates to the last couple of years and the tremendous pressure put on him. Dr. H says he was being questioned every couple of weeks. He somehow has an agreement with the FBI relating to confidentiality.

  4. DXer said

    His theory as to the silicon signature is that the spores were “grown in a situation where probably antifoam was present.” He says in a series of experiments with a colleague he would use an antifoam in creating an aerosol. They use a small amount and bubble air through and would have foam develop so they introduced antifoam. The FBi was very keen on why they did that and what happened to that material. Now the FBI says “oh, that’s just an anomaly” but back then there was keen interest in what was done as to the use of antifoam.

  5. DXer said

    WMFD exclusive – Feb. 25, 2010 interview of Dr. Bruce Ivins former colleague Henry Heine.

    http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/FREDERICK-MD/WFMD-AM/Hank%20Heine%207am%20hour.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=FREDERICK-MD&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=1142&STATION_ID=WFMD-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=930_WFMD&PCAST_CAT=News_/_Talk&PCAST_TITLE=Morning_News_Express_Bobcast

    • DXer said

      Dr. Heine says all the USAMRIID scientists were interviewed in mid-October 2001 and where they were on the dates of mailing. (Comment: What did Dr. Ivins say when asked within 2 weeks of the mailing? Why wasn’t his response at the time provided?)

      Dr. Heine says that the drying equipment that would be needed was not available — and not protected — in Dr. Ivins’ workspace.

      He says Dr. Ivins did not have the knowledge or expertise to grow up large amounts of bacteria — it would have been impossible for Bruce to do.

      Dr. Heine says a lot of his own work with his animals was done with material from Flask 1029 and his office was in 1412.
      (Note: from the unredacted version HH took out 50 ml, 50 ml, 10 ml, 8 ml.)

      In Building 1425, it was kept in the cold room freezer. With access to the suite, anyone could walk in and take it. (Note: this is why the FBI estimates that up to 377 had access required elimination (allowing for some duplication who had access in both 1425 and 1412)

      Next up – HH on silicon signature.

    • DXer said

      He had some of the good stuff to grow up for antibiotic work. He says even just opening up that zip lock bag… like when you open up a talcum powder and twist the top, it was like that. They were working around the clock. His task was to identify the antibiotic that should be used — and to consider whether it was resistant to antibiotics.

    • DXer said

      It is in 3 segments.

      Here is the third.

      [audio src="http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/FREDERICK-MD/WFMD-AM/Hank%20Heine%208am%20hour%20.mp3" /]

      • DXer said

        Says (but refer to the source lest I get it wrong)

        1, 000, 000, 000, 000 per gram.
        1 000 000 000

        We still need to get 4 more powers of ten beyond what Dr. Ivins could do.

        It would take a fermenter run.

        Problem with a fermenter run you still need to get rid of the liquid. None of these things were available at USAMRIID, he says.

        He says lyophilizer was in non-containment area and could not have been used.

        • DXer said

          His theory as to the silicon signature is that the spores were “grown in a situation where probably antifoam was present.” He says in a series of experiments with a colleague he would use a silicone-based antifoam in creating an aerosol. They use a small amount and bubble air through and would have foam develop so they introduced antifoam. The FBi was very keen on why they did that and what happened to that material. Now the FBI says “oh, that’s just an anomaly” but back then there was keen interest in what was done as to the use of antifoam.

        • DXer said

          On the government having it all rely on Flask 1029, he analogizes it to the situation of the guy at the Walmart and blaming him for a shooting in town because he had control of the bullets at one point under the counter. He says that’s all they have — and implies that is ridiculous.

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