CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* from DXer … Dr. Bruce Ivins had group therapy sessions scheduled on both September 17, 2001 and on October 8, 2001, the same dates the FBI says he was mailing the anthrax letters

Posted by DXer on March 9, 2010

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11 Responses to “* from DXer … Dr. Bruce Ivins had group therapy sessions scheduled on both September 17, 2001 and on October 8, 2001, the same dates the FBI says he was mailing the anthrax letters”

  1. DXer said

    Trump Wants a Wartime Consigliere to Take on Mr. Integrity

    Mar 22, 2018

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/03/22/trump-wants-wartime-consigliere-take-mr-integrity/

    Remember that anthrax case that they improperly charged some poor slob in New Jersey with this? They pursued this guy for five years. He was innocent. They pursued him for five years. Mueller, leading the charge, destroyed this guy’s life. He never apologized to him. The Department of Justice had to pay this guy $5 million in a settlement — and here is Mueller leading that charge. Never once apologized. He just had the wrong guy and wouldn’t let go for five years, folks. Ralph Peters says this is the guy we gotta protect.

    Note: Like Ivins, Hatfill lived in Maryland, not New Jersey. One problem (as under an Ivins Theory) was that there was no evidence he had travelled.

  2. DXer said

    Instead of relying polygraphs and anthrax smelling dogs, the FBI should have prioritized computer forensics.

    For example, the FBI should have promptly obtained the computer forensics showing that Dr. Ivins attended the group therapy sessions those week — rather than waiting until after his suicide.

    • Lew Weinstein said

      It doesn’t take anything as fancy as “computer forensics.” It takes someone looking at an appointment schedule. Of course you have to be seeking the truth, which I am convinced was never the FBI’s objective. Am I the only one who sees the links to Colin Powell, anthrax at the UN, and the Iraq War?

      By the way, since things like this are not covered by the term “scientific investigation” does that mean GAO will not consider such matters in its review? If so, what a waste!

  3. DXer said

    It cracks me up that Dr. Majidi bases evidence of murder on someone not being able to establish where they were 5 years ago.

    For the over 50 crowd, we would be lucky to remember where we were yesterday.

    The FBI refused to give Dr. Ivins access to the documents — such as notebooks — that he sought.

    The FBI knowingly withheld the documents relating to the experiment with 52 rabbits — that IS NOWHERE MENTIONED IN THE AMERITHRAX SUMMARY.

    THE FAILURE TO DISCUSS THE EXPERIMENT WITH THE 52 RABBITS (AND SUBSTITUTE MAJIDI’S BULLSHIT CONJECTURE AND ASSUMPTION) IS EITHER VERY SERIOUS MISCONDUCT OR GROSS NEGLIGENCE.

    FOR DR. MAJIDI TO REPEAT THE ARGUMENTS NOW WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE DOCUMENTS IS GROSS NEGLIGENCE.

    http://www.amerithrax.wordpress.com

  4. DXer said

    In his September 2013 book accusing Dr. Ivins of murder, Dr. Majidi claims — without citing any support — that Dr. Ivins did not have an alibi.

    Yet when he first stood up before the country and first accused Dr. Ivins of murder in August 2008, Dr. Majidi did not yet have the benefit of knowing whether Dr. Ivins had attended his counseling sessions on the nights in question.

    It turns out that Dr. Ivins DID attend those sessions.

    Dr. Majidi is operating in what Hillary Clinton would call an “evidence free” zone. Dr. Majidi’s only consolation is that he is confident that FBI DIrector Comey has his back.

    There is no government accountability in Washington D.C. — inside the beltway has become an evidence free zone both in politics and at the Department of Justice.

  5. DXer said

    The United States government has spent more effort studying the aerosolization of ebola as a bioweapon than — before Dr. Ivins suicide — it spent confirming that he attended his group therapy session with an addictions counselor on the nights it alleged he had mailed powderized anthrax.

    How hard would it have been to do that? What would the effort required have been? Why didn’t they do it before his death?

    Vet Pathol. 2012 Dec 23. [Epub ahead of print]

    Pathology of Experimental Aerosol Zaire Ebolavirus Infection in Rhesus Macaques.

    Twenhafel NA, Mattix ME, Johnson JC, Robinson CG, Pratt WD, Cashman KA, Wahl-Jensen V, Terry C, Olinger GG, Hensley LE, Honko AN.
    Source

    Fort Detrick, MD, USA.

    Abstract

    There is limited knowledge of the pathogenesis of human ebolavirus infections and no reported human cases acquired by the aerosol route. There is a threat of ebolavirus as an aerosolized biological weapon, and this study evaluated the pathogenesis of aerosol infection in 18 rhesus macaques. Important and unique findings include early infection of the respiratory lymphoid tissues, early fibrin deposition in the splenic white pulp, and perivasculitis and vasculitis in superficial dermal blood vessels of haired skin with rash. Initial infection occurred in the respiratory lymphoid tissues, fibroblastic reticular cells, dendritic cells, alveolar macrophages, and blood monocytes. Virus spread to regional lymph nodes, where significant viral replication occurred. Virus secondarily infected many additional blood monocytes and spread from the respiratory tissues to multiple organs, including the liver and spleen. Viremia, increased temperature, lymphocytopenia, neutrophilia, thrombocytopenia, and increased alanine aminotransferase, aspartate aminotransferase, γ-glutamyl transpeptidase, total bilirubin, serum urea nitrogen, creatinine, and hypoalbuminemia were measurable mid to late infection. Infection progressed rapidly with whole-body destruction of lymphoid tissues, hepatic necrosis, vasculitis, hemorrhage, and extravascular fibrin accumulation. Hypothermia and thrombocytopenia were noted in late stages with the development of disseminated intravascular coagulation and shock. This study provides unprecedented insight into pathogenesis of human aerosol Zaire ebolavirus infection and suggests development of a medical countermeasure to aerosol infection will be a great challenge due to massive early infection of respiratory lymphoid tissues. Rhesus macaques may be used as a model of aerosol infection that will allow the development of lifesaving medical countermeasures under the Food and Drug Administration’s animal rule.

  6. DXer said

    GAO should make availabe this handwritten note written by Dr. Ivins on September 17, 2001 being withheld by DOJ.

    A trash cover on ______________________________________________ at approximately 12:50 AM on August 04, 2008 refers to an item submitted to evidence

    “17 Sep – group at Dr. Levy’s ~ 5-6PM [illegible]”

    The FBI did not release it but should. The public may find that what Dr. Ivins wrote about his September 17, 2001 session at Dr. Levy’s to both be legible and relevant exculpatory evidence.

  7. DXer said

    Dr. Ivins had an alibi. He had a group therapy session scheduled at the time of first mailing. So anyone who didn’t have an alibi — for example, someone who was not living his wife and kids — would be a better prospect.

    The sincerity of Mrs. Ivins’ belief in his innocence is revealed by her poignant note to him on the day of his death.

    http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/opinion/display_editorial.htm?StoryID=117013

    Flawed science
    Originally published February 21, 2011

    The FBI’s weak case against Bruce Ivins, the lone suspect in the Amerithrax attacks, was dealt an embarrassing blow with Tuesday’s release of a report by the National Research Council.
    The 170-page document, a review the FBI itself requested, stated that the case for Ivins’ culpability in the deadly anthrax mailings of 2001 was based largely on flawed science, and that the strength of that evidence was overstated by the FBI.

    According to the report, over the course of its investigation, the FBI devoted 600,000 hours to the case and assigned 17 special agents to a task force along with 10 U.S. postal inspectors. The investigation spanned six continents and involved more than 10,000 witness interviews, 80 searches, 26,000 e-mail reviews, and analyses of 4 million megabytes of computer memory. It resulted in 5,750 grand jury subpoenas issued.

    Twenty-nine government, university and commercial laboratories assisted in conducting the scientific analyses that were a central aspect of the investigation.

    Despite all that, the council’s reports states: “It is not possible to reach a definitive conclusion about the origins of the B. anthracis in the mailings based on the available scientific evidence alone.”

    In other words, despite what the FBI and Justice Department claimed, no one really knows where the anthrax came from that was used in the fatal mailings.

    The council could not determine how skilled the manufacturer needed to be to produce the spores, which could have taken anywhere from two days to months to prepare. Also overturned was a conclusion by the Justice Department that the anthrax came from a flask created and maintained solely by Ivins.

    From a purely scientific standpoint, there is no smoking gun to tie Ivins to the anthrax mailings.

    The FBI, in our opinion, built their case on largely circumstantial evidence — that Ivins had to be the one because he fit the psychological profile.

    With the science that underpinned that finding now in doubt, the FBI’s case is in tatters. We will probably never conclusively know if Ivins was guilty. And that the FBI used shoddy evidence to push him as the suspect, pre-emptively wrapping up the case after Ivins’ suicide in 2008, does not fulfill due process and is an injustice.

    Even worse, if Ivins was not the anthrax mailer, the real killer, or killers, is still on the loose.

  8. DXer said

    When does Ed claim that Dr. Ivins travelled to mail the letters? And what is his evidence?

    https://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/from-dxer-dr-bruce-ivins-had-group-therapy-sessions-scheduled-on-both-september-17-2001-and-on-october-8-2001-the-same-dates-the-fbi-says-he-was-mailing-the-anthrax-letters/

    • DXer said

      The FBI can’t state a time when he travelled because there was no opportunity for him to travel. He had an alibi for the window of mailing — once it was revealed after his death.

  9. DXer said

    A trash cover on ______________________________________________ at approximately 12:50 AM on August 04, 2008 refers to an item submitted to evidence

    “17 Sep – group at Dr. Levy’s ~ 5-6PM [illegible]”

    The FBI did not release it but should. The public may find that what Dr. Ivins wrote about his September 17, 2001 session at Dr. Levy’s to both be legible and relevant exculpatory evidence.

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