CASE CLOSED … what really happened in the 2001 anthrax attacks?

* What biological laboratory equipment did Atef ask KSM to move to the special laboratory near Tarnak Farm that KSM came to think was related to the anthrax development efforts?

Posted by Lew Weinstein on April 26, 2011

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14 Responses to “* What biological laboratory equipment did Atef ask KSM to move to the special laboratory near Tarnak Farm that KSM came to think was related to the anthrax development efforts?”

  1. DXer said

    What does Al-Barq, one of Yazid Sufaat’s assistants, say about what equipment was there at the lab in Kandahar? (Some was destroyed and some was removed prior to the arrival of US troops).

    Family Al Qaeda Terrorist Held by Israel Denies Charges
    Terrorist’s mother claims son ‘just wanted to study microbiology’; officials say he planned to release anthrax into urban center.

    By Tova Dvorin
    First Publish: 11/19/2013, 11:31 AM

    Illustration: Islamist fighters in N. Africa
    Reuters

    The mother of Samer Halmi Abdel Latif Al-Barq, the Senior al-Qaeda terrorist revealed to have been held in Israel for the past three years, has insisted in an interview with Israeli media that her son was “never” involved in building biochemical weapons.

    Al-Barq, 39, was detained by security forces as he attempted to enter Israel from Jordan via the Allenby Bridge. He faces allegations of planning a large-scale biological weapons attack against Jews via Jordan, and officials say he had elaborate plans to recruit a suicide bomber to release anthrax in a major urban center.

    Al-Barq’s family – Kuwaiti nationals – lives in the Palestinian Authority settlement of Jayyous, near Qalqiliya. While reports have been surfacing across the nation of her son’s capture, Al-Barq’s mother vigilantly denies his involvement, Channel 10 / Nana revealed Monday.

    “I know my son,” Al-Barq’s mother claims. “If he only got the chance to say his side of the story, there would be no reason to continue the administrative detention he is in now.”

    Al-Barq’s family claims that the terrorist’s odyssey from Arab country to Arab country was a quest to learn the best biology at local universities – nothing more. In his youth, he left Kuwait for Pakistan, ostensibly to study, then continued to Afghanistan.

    There, officials say, he began to prepare biochemical weapons. Al-Barq has reportedly told Israeli investigators that he performed initial tests in Afghanistan, using nerve gas on a dog. “Within seconds, the dog died,” he told them coolly. “I began talking to friends about possible plans to go back to the West, and use weapons like this against Israel.”

    Al-Barq also described how he was recruited into the terror organization, Nana reports, by the organization’s leader, Ayman Al-Zawahiri. “I met him in Afghanistan. He said I should be in touch with him to learn about producing anthrax,” al-Barq stated. “We talked about the possibility of a suicide attack by releasing anthrax into a major urban center.”

    While he has yet to be charged with a specific crime in Israel, al-Barq can be legally detained indefinitely if shown that he poses a threat. On Monday, the State told the High Court that the terrorist must remain in jail for the time being.

  2. Dxer said

    The same people who did not know that the lyophilizer was not in the B3 with Dr.Ivins likely do not know the answer to this question.

  3. DXer said

    “Immediately prior to the fall of Kandahar in late 2001, JI member stayed at detainee’s home for six days. Yazid told detainee he was developing anthrax for al-Qaida, and was happy in his work.”

    Comment: That was in August 2001, correct? Yazid does in fact seem like a happy guy by his nature. As he says, life may not be what you want but you might as well as dance while you’re at the ball.

    “”Yazid was giving biology lessons to two al-Qaida operatives, detained Abu Bakr al-Filistini aka (Samir Hilmi al-Barq) and al-Hud al-Sudani.”

    Comment: These are the operatives that for years I have called Barq and Wahdan.

    “When detainee queried Yazid about the danger of his research, Yazid indicated there was little to worry about since he (Yazid), Bakr, and al-Hud all had anthrax vaccines.”

    Comment:

    The suggestion by some (like Milton L.) that Al Qaeda was not working with virulent strain(s) of anthrax was mistaken. Yazid Sufaat is on Facebook and by chat tells me that “what I did was for the luv of islam. I feel if I write, I may jack myself up [DXer]… than risk will come in.. than riak will come in… riak may wipe out those amal, that is the most I scared of, let people write, I will tell everything, let people judge, but Allah will give the best judgment… plan is on the way, if Allah says that by having a book is better than it be there , one day insyaAlloh.”

    • DXer said

      http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2778230/ksm-4-others-to-face-murder-charges.html

      In his war court charge sheet he comes off as a meticulous micromanager of the largest mass murder in American history — coaching the mostly Saudi hijackers on the most basic brutish English for their mission — “if anyone moves, I’ll kill you” …

      Walid bin Attash, 33, a Yemeni who lost his leg in a 1997 battlefield accident in Afghanistan, sits behind Mohammed in court and is cast in the charge sheets as the No. 2 of the so-called “Planes Operation.”

      He’s a former al-Qaida training camp instructor who allegedly handpicked some of the Sept. 11 hijackers out of a hand-to-hand combat training course two years before 9/11 — and brought them to Mohammed in Pakistan. There they practiced on a computer-driven flight simulation program and learned the English they needed for their mission.

      Comment:

      t always cracked me up that the talking heads used to say that the anthrax letters were written in short brutish english rather than flowery prose like you would expect. Ha! The documents from the anthrax planning session involving balloons had the handwritten note saying “You die now!” The talking pundits were just uninformed. The journalists did not inform themselves and repeated the punditry rather than what the documents showed.

      GAO needs to obtain the handwriting exemplars and FBI handwriting analysis for both Hani Hanjour and Nawaf Al-Hazmi.

    • DXer said

      In 2011, I wrote:

      “Yazid does in fact seem like a happy guy by his nature. As he says, life may not be what you want but you might as well as dance while you’re at the ball.

      “”Yazid was giving biology lessons to two al-Qaida operatives, detained Abu Bakr al-Filistini aka (Samir Hilmi al-Barq) and al-Hud al-Sudani.”

      … These are the operatives that for years I have called Barq and Wahdan.

      “When detainee queried Yazid about the danger of his research, Yazid indicated there was little to worry about since he (Yazid), Bakr, and al-Hud all had anthrax vaccines.”

      ….

      The suggestion by some (like Milton L.) that Al Qaeda was not working with virulent strain(s) of anthrax was mistaken. Yazid Sufaat is on Facebook and by chat tells me that “what I did was for the luv of islam. I feel if I write, I may jack myself up [DXer]… than risk will come in.. than riak will come in… riak may wipe out those amal, that is the most I scared of, let people write, I will tell everything, let people judge, but Allah will give the best judgment… plan is on the way, if Allah says that by having a book is better than it be there , one day insyaAlloh.”

      Comment:

      If supporters of these defendants do not know the anthrax strain that Sufaat and Barq (and the MIA al-Hud al-Sudani) were using, do they know enough to most effectively support the defendants?

      Similarly, if supporters of an “Ivins Theory” do not know the anthrax strain that Sufaat and Barq (and the MIA al-Hud al-Sudani) were using, do they know enough to most effectively support an “Ivins Theory”?

      When the US handed off Barq to Jordan and then Jordan handed him off (according to his counsel’s argument) to Israel, what did that bode for the public understanding of the strain Al Qaeda was using in Afghanistan?

      What did that bode for the resolution of Amerithrax?

  4. DXer said

    It would have taken KSM, Yazid and Yazid’s earnest mentee, Samir Al-Hilmi al-Barq, together to move equipment as big as the lyophilizer that the DOJ speciously suggested was used by Dr. Ivins in B3 on those nights — given the huge thing was down in B5.

    Yazid assured KSM that Samir Al-Hilmi al-Barg and his other pupil were all vaccinated and so there was nothing to worry about in terms of infection.

  5. DXer said

    May 28, 2007

    ANTHRAX, BOMBS AND AL-QAEDA

    BY SEAN M. MALONEY

    The terrorist network has been pursuing WMDs for years

    Outside of Kandahar Air Field in Afghanistan is a complex of compounds and
    ranges known as Tarnak Farms. Site of the notorious 2002 “friendly fire”
    deaths of four Canadian soldiers, Tarnak Farms was one of several sites in
    the country where al-Qaeda pursued research into acquiring weapons of mass
    destruction. My friend, whom I will call Muhammad, showed me around the
    now-bulldozed area in 2006. “It was back in 2001. We had 12 American special
    forces soldiers with us,” he said. “Two helicopters came in at night and
    brought another 65 men. Our men surrounded the place. We also did this at a
    mosque in Kandahar city. We spent several days protecting the teams as they
    searched.” When I asked Muhammad what they were looking for, he told me that
    al-Qaeda was making a chemical weapon that he called “stinky gas”–and that
    they may have tested it: “They used it once, against people on the road to
    Herat. These people had blood coming from their noses and openings.”

    Indeed, back in 2002, personnel from Lt.-Col. Pat Stogran’s 3rd Battalion,
    Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, assisted in “SSEs,” or
    sensitive site exploitation–missions associated with the hunt for what
    al-Qaeda was up to in the weapons of mass destruction field during that
    time. In the wake of 9/11, anything was possible, especially when
    anthrax-filled letters arrived in the United States in the fall of 2001.

    The furor over WMDs is generally associated with Iraq, and the UN Special
    Commission’s cat-and-mouse games with the Saddam Hussein regime in the 1990s
    or, more recently, the Bush administration’s attempt to sell the war in Iraq
    back in 2002. “WMD” has become a catch-all term for what specialists call
    chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, and the technologies and
    scientific knowledge that support their construction. A lot of effort has
    been put into debunking U.S. claims that Iraq possessed WMDs prior to the
    2003 invasion. Almost no public investigative effort has, however, focused
    on al-Qaeda’s interest in WMDs.

    The recent publication of former CIA director George Tenet’s book, At The
    Center of the Storm, should rekindle such an examination, but distressingly
    the focus has been on Tenet’s “slam dunk” remark and the issue of
    politicized intelligence and the drive to war in Iraq. When it comes to
    al-Qaeda, however, Tenet connects several dots, some of which have been in
    the public domain, some not. The Kandahar facilities were used by al-Qaeda
    to isolate anthrax: the work was done by Yazid Sufaat, a member of the
    affiliated Jemaah Islamiya from Malaysia. The labs were established by a
    Pakistani, Rauf Ahmad (both were apprehended by 2002). Information from the
    SSE missions resulted in the unravelling of a sophisticated al-Qaeda anthrax
    network. Though Tenet doesn’t say so, others have speculated that the
    anthrax used against targets in North America was connected to this network.
    (The attacks stopped after Ahmad and Sufaat were apprehended.)

    Tenet explains that some 20 al-Qaeda plots against North America were
    disrupted by the invasion of Afghanistan. SSE missions seized laptops and
    other files that led to the apprehension of senior al-Qaeda leaders.
    “Aggressive interrogation techniques” were used to extract vital information
    from “only a handful of the worst terrorists on the planet, including people
    who planned the 9/11 attacks.” Tenet goes on to say that this information
    “helped disrupt plots aimed at locations in the United States, the United
    Kingdom, the Middle East [and Asia].” He credits “the arrest of operatives
    in Canada” as contributing to stopping a major plot against London.

    ***
    It is easy to argue that the Bush administration got it wrong when it comes
    to WMDs in Iraq, and maybe they got in wrong on the matter of WMDs and
    al-Qaeda. Tenet has only just lifted the lid: we must dig deeper, because
    chances are Canada is as much a target as Britain or the U.S. Sherlock
    Holmes reminded Watson that sometimes it was the dog that didn’t bark that
    was the significant thing. The same goes for al-Qaeda’s search for weapons
    of mass destruction capability, truncated and disrupted as it is.

  6. DXer said

  7. DXer said

    Was this equipment in place by May 2001 obtained by Rauf Ahmad?

    Zawahiri’s Correspondence With Infiltrating Scientist Was Part of Parallel Compartmentalized Cell Operation

    Posted by Lew Weinstein on February 20, 2010
    http://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/from-dxer-infiltration-of-u-s-biodefense-zawahiris-correspondence-with-infiltrating-scientist-was-part-of-parallel-compartmentalized-cell-operation/

  8. DXer said

    In the indictment announced earlier this month of KSM, Al-Hawsawi and the others, in the use of bioweapons were conducted?

    http://caseclosedbylewweinstein.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/in-the-indictment-announced-today-of-ksm-al-hawsawi-and-the-others-the-indictment-mentions-experiments-in-the-use-of-biological-weapons-what-experiments-in-the-use-of-bioweapons-were-conducted/

  9. DXer said

    RESPONSE TO TERROR; Indonesian Cleric Had Role in Skyjacking…‎
    Pay-Per-View – Los Angeles Times – Feb 2, 2002
    [Yazid Sufaat]‘s signature also appears on a phony letter that the FBI found in …. said Sufaat went to Pakistan last June because he wanted to do his …

    Comment: By March 2002, I was posting on Sacramento State alum board asking for info about Yazid. The Amerithrax investigators did not get around to visiting him in detention until November 2002. At that time, they asked him mainly how he knew Zacarias Moussaoui. A blood test would have shown that Sufaat had been vaccinated for anthrax. So when President Bush says they had no idea about Sufaat’s role in anthrax until after Hambali was captured in August 2003, isn’t that because there was insufficient and untimely pursuit of the lead?

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